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[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

I work at a company that has big offices in Japan and the US (as well as many other places) and it’s pretty interesting to see the contrasts in living standards and expectations up close.

On the one hand, when coworkers visit from Japan they are disgusted by how dirty, unsafe, and uncourteous the US is by comparison. They complain endlessly about the low quality standards of the food. I picture myself having to pick worms and hair out of everything and that’s what things seem like from their perspective.

But then some of them move to the US because they can’t handle the stuffy, oppressive attitude in Japan. Everything is about what you can’t do or aren’t supposed to do. One guy said he was so relieved to go to the US where people know how to say “we can find a way to do that.”

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 4 days ago (4 children)

but getting blind drunk in the street every night for them is fine. Ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Like smoking, alcohol is a huge industry in Japan. It's "normal" for Japanese companies to addict their employees to their products and because the companies ARE the government, they enact incredibly protectionist laws like this to prevent external competition.

Their economy depends on it. It's super gross. Like America and guns, or Sweden and flatpak furniture (the last one is a half joke)

If Japan starts being a cannabis producer, they'll 180 so fast you'll get vertigo.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I bet they'd produce some bomb ass bud though. It would also look pretty as fuck as each nug is meticulously sculpted into a tiny little bonsai.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I was shocked at how often you just see people laying passed out on the sidewalk or sleeping on a bench. Japan is an insanely different place after the bars start closing. Was genuinely uneasy with how many people everywhere just had zero control of themselves.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's a reason why countries with proper transit infrastructure view alcoholism as a novelty.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Honestly, i think the reason is that just the right amount of alcohol dependency is amazing for capitalism. Dont get me wrong, I'm not judging anyone. I understand and I enjoy a drink myself. I just think we need to be honest with ourselves about it.

It keeps you consuming and it makes you forget all the bullshit you had to put up with all day. It dulls your your problem solving, your creativity and (most importantly) your empathy, so supervisors, middle managers, department managers and execs are less disinclined not to beat down on those below them.

I'm not saying its some grand conspiracy. I'm saying, those in power have known exactly the right drugs to administer to the masses in order to placate them. The Romans knew to give wine and not cannabis. The British army knew to give rum & brandy but not weed.

In fact, all of them were legal. Then, capitalism really took off and, totally unrelated in sure, every drug other than alcohol suddenly became illegal.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Part of the world: takes a step forward

Japan: not on my fucking watch

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 5 days ago (24 children)

A population that old and conservative loves shit like that. Also, the government urging young people to instead drink more alcohol sounds like something straight out of the Soviet Unions playbook.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Drunk people might accidentally get pregnant and help with the population. Really an obvious move

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a friend who moved from the UK to South Korea. He says that drugs is extremely illegal so everybody just gets totally wasted on alcohol there and that that's extremely normalized.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If someone from the UK is saying this, my god it must be bad.

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 5 days ago (20 children)

amid increasing concerns that the lack of a ban on use is promoting drug abuse by young people.

This fucking backwards ass notion of weed as a "gateway drug" needs to die. Their reasoning for calling it that shows their idiocy, in that it's called that because it's cheap and harmless, so they think it will lead to people believing other drugs are similar. Imagine branding something as dangerous because it's (Checks Notes) cheap and harmless.

Although from personal experience, I'd say that weed is a gateway drug of sorts, in that if you're addicted to something far more dangerous (like alcohol), using weed can act like a "gateway" to sobriety.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 days ago (11 children)

And yet alcohol shall not be banned.

What are they thinking?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 days ago (3 children)

And unlike cannabis use (as far as I'm aware), alcoholism is actually a real problem in Japan, because drinking alcohol is not only socially acceptable but downright enforced.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (3 children)

In my experience weed can be a gateway drug when you have to buy it from a drug dealer. As an analogy, lots of people end up buying something other than what they went into Target to buy.

[–] VirtualOdour 12 points 4 days ago

Also a criminal record can fuck your life in a myriad of ways, if like me you fall in love with someone from another country and you both have weed charges neither country will let you live together even decades later destroying what's probably your only chance at happiness.

These rules are needlessly cruel and absurd.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

It's Japan. If anything is promoting drug abuse, it's the work culture.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago

Welcome to Japan, where everything, especially their mentality is fatally stuck in the glory days of the 1970/1980s.

Even today they still use fax and computer usage is the office middling and general computer literacy is abyssal.

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 5 days ago (5 children)

WTF? Japan, you're supposed to be doing the opposite!

[–] [email protected] 126 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Tbh, I don't expect any culture that considers tattoos to be taboo to be cool with weed.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, they have some nice things going for them but Japanese culture still very patriarchal and conservative overall

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

While the possession and cultivation of marijuana are already banned in Japan, the country will prohibit its use as well, setting a prison sentence of up to seven years for violation.

Ok, so that clears that up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

This is so fucking backwards it's not even funny

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 5 days ago (9 children)

This is worse than you think. Most countries don't criminalize use, only possession. Criminalizing use like Sweden does likely means that even having cannabis in your system is illegal and could lead to fines, criminal record, and jail time. It's insanely backwards.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Sweden is nuts. When I moved here, I was shocked. It's really backwards. Everyone drinks here, but weed is something like heroin to them. They should all smoke weed.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 days ago (4 children)

As a swede: Word. It's backwards as fuck here. The previous government didn't even want to investigate whether or not to decriminalize, because doing so (investigate, mind you) would "send the wrong signals". Yeeah fuck science and people's lives when you have "signals" to worry about.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

R2 we're supposed to be going up not down!

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it already illegal. My wife’s cousin served two years for an amount that is so small police wouldn’t even bother to confiscate it in europe.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, it's news to me that it wasn't technically illegal. They still believe in the reefer madness shit and act like it.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The pant is illegal because it's cheap to grow yourself, but if you let some drug companies make money off of processing it, then it's perfectly fine to use...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"A plant known for opening the mind and making you question things? That's illegal."

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Come on, it's not LSD. It just makes you sleepy and snacky.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don't like weed. I've tried it throughout my teens, but left it there.

With that said, it's amazing to me that we're still having the same conversations around drugs. Decriminalise EVERYTHING! Ensure what is on the market is clean, drive the costs down to remove criminals from the market, and dedicate every police force to protecting those on the bottom rung of the drug ladder.

I read a book from a former officer a while back, where he'd spent two years working on infiltrating a drug network. It was successful, and they not only shut down a major network of drugs, but arrested around 100 people, and removed tons of illegal weapons from the market, and arrested several people in the network known to police for being involved in several murders. They believed that the drug market in the UK during this time had been disrupted "for three hours". That was all it took for another gang to take over, and apparently it's those successes that cause a lot of people to leave drug enforcement - after all, what's the point?

There almost seems to be zero benefit to drug criminalisation, other than "old conservatives hate it".

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Fucking idiots. Legalize and tax it. It works every time.

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