politics

This wins the night...

OMG Trump is off the rails and i absolutely love it!

Moderator: "Just to be clear, you have a plan? "

Trump: "I have concepts of a plan?"

In the post debate interview, Tim Walz just referenced Trump as an old man yelling at clouds. I love it.

"I have the concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now!"

Holy shit, dude. You biffed that one hard.

“Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.”

— Former President Donald J. Trump

"i'm a gun owner, we're not taking guns away." strongest opinion from a democrat i've heard on this topic.

So here are my thoughts:

• First, the obvious: Harris won handily. She was in her element, and just thoroughly excoriated Trump at every turn, while maintaining an optimistic tone.
• But at the same time, Trump is probably not losing any of his base over his abysmal performance. Most of them probably didn't watch, and the few that did probably tuned out in favor of reading conservative bloggers' desperate spinning about halfway through.
• The real question is how off-putting he's been for undecideds. He was pretty bad, but I'm aware enough of my own biases to wonder exactly how bad his behavior looks to undecideds.
• On the issues, Harris didn't really have a stumble. I was pleasantly surprised by how well she handled the issue of Israel/Palestine, for example.
• The moderators get a B for following up questions, a C- for mic handling, and an A- for calling it out when Trump's bizarre, rambling bullshit failed to even vaguely resemble an answer.

All in all, I didn't hate this (other than the sound of Trump's face hole).

"Donald trump was fired by 81 million people"

Throwing his catch phrase against him!

From where I was sitting, it seemed like Harris beat the ever-loving-shit out him. He took every piece of bait she laid out. I'm not the target though, so I hope undecideds saw what I saw.

Harris exceeded high expectations and Trump failed to meet incredibly low expectations.

Let the spin begin, but I saw what I saw.

This… former President…

That pause. 👏

The take aways, there are illegals getting sent to jail for trans surgery that are then sent out to eat cats and abort born children near the Keystone Pipeline so that billions and millions and trillions of illegals can enter everyday.

Honestly, this comment is a bit crazy and stupid, but then I remember what I just watched and heard.

"I AM RESPOND!"

"No sir we need to get to the next quest..."

"I AM RESPOND NOW!"

"No, Mr. President we need to..."

"I AM RESPOND!"

"Oh OK."

"THEY WEAK ME STRONG! HONK HONK!"

HE’S GOT CONCEPTS OF A PLAN, KIDS, SHIT I’M ALL IN

Trump claims he only used to be racist 40 years ago

OMG, he's arguing with the moderators about whether or not a dog got eaten!

"A dictator who would eat you for lunch."

Trump has officially moved to the "no u" stage of his debate tactics.

There won't be another debate, lol.

Really good energy this time around, but Jesus, Trump is exhausting to listen to. No wonder crowds leave his rallies early. :)

Edit: Muted him, but I can hear my wife in the other room yelling "OH FUCK YOU!!!"

He really wants to fight against Biden.
"You aren't running against Joe Biden, you're running against me"

"I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now" -Trump

"Those were your words."

"I dunno."

The articles leading up to this were great. The punditry about how Harris couldn't afford one little gaffe or she's sunk.

No one seemed to remember her from senate hearings. No one remembered that she was a fucking prosecutor. She made a career out of manipulating people into self-incrimination. Her livelihood was arguing people into corners they couldn't escape. Exposing lies was her bread and butter. And she had to do so in a way that made it crystal clear to a dozen randos who were too dumb to get out of jury duty.

And Trump is a stupid, vain, easily manipulated hothead who lies about everything.

And the audience was American voters.

This is familiar territory for Harris. She knows this place like the inside of her eyelids.

I live near Detroit. They are building an auto factory down the street from me where the Pistons used to play. That's not in Mexico

…and this…..former president…

She wanted to say idiot.

In case anyone has forgotten re Afghanistan:

Trump admitted that it was his own doing:

speaking at a rally on 26 June [2021, he] even stated that he “started the process” and claimed Biden “couldn’t stop it” if he “wanted to”.

“Many many billions of dollars” IRS are you listening?

I feel like she's using words like 'weak' to unsettle Trump and it's getting to him

"President Trump, thank you" sounds more and more like "Shut the fuck up now, bitch" every time a moderator says it.

Just wish moderators would have the spine to hold Trump to the rules and just keep his mic muted and move on.

Maybe it is in the benefit of Harris given his rambling but I don't know.

Whoops, he's debating Biden again.

Six years later, he still doesn't have the healthcare plan he promised in two weeks.

He has concepts!

I understand now why rich people want Trump in office, he’s soft headed and will say or believe anything they want. They basically stroke his ego to get what they want

He's bringing up dictators who love him.

Apparently, Taylor Swift just responded to AI fakes of her supporting Trump by formally endorsing Harris.

Question was about how Trump would solve the problem in Israel and Palestine. Trump: "Putin!"

In other words, I’ll just give Ukraine to Putin.

Ho ho ho. Going after his fragile ego by saying foreign leaders laughing at him.

He's going to go of the rails.

Morning after thoughts:

• The memes from this one are already amazing. "Concepts of a plan" is going to haunt Trump until his dying day.
• Trump usually dominates any conversation he's in, simply by being the loudest one there. It often works for him. Last night, it worked against him, because he was loud about what Harris wanted him to be loud about.
• In retrospect, the level of optimism Harris was able to maintain throughout was very impressive. She looked happy to be there, even when confronted by Trump's obvious mental illness, and I don't think she was faking it.

I'm starting to have genuine hope for November.

"so basically you still do not have a plan" 💀

"THEY'RE LETTING CRIMINALS INTO THE COUNTRY!"

"You get to be sentenced for your crimes in November..."

Notice he says he wants the war to end. Not that he wants Russia out of Ukraine. He wants the war to end with Russia getting what Putin wants.

The Harris campaign is asking about setting up the next debate. No response from the Trump camp so far.

Trump himself previously pushed for 3 debates. Let’s see what his handlers allow him to agree to after this disaster.