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[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What I find worse is when I go to a resteraunt that I went to today. It was a mexican resteraunt. And it was a sit down resteraunt. However, the food was basically fast food. This was a fast food place, better than taco bell, but maybe worse than chipotle. It was priced higher than chipotle by about 30%. And then you have to tip because its a sit down resteraunt. Except.....my server took my order, and then I never saw him again. Never refilled my drink. Never came over to check if everything was ok. And it wasn't a packed house. I was one of 5 tables, and 3 of the other tables had a different server.

Meaning, this guy had 2 tables to attend to, ignored both, someone else brought my food out, and then I sat there, waiting for the check......and he just stood at the bar, and conversed. Finally I went to the hostess table, and said "do I pay here? Orrr......." and she said "No, your server will be by with the check."

I felt like asking "Will he though???" After like 15 more minutes he came by, meal clearly done, and he says "So, did you want another root beer?"

And then it asked for tip. Tip for what??? You pressed a few buttons on an iPad, and then ghosted the whole dinning room for 45 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And it shouldn’t be your job to reprimand them. And they shouldn’t be financially reprimanded. They should be taught better by mgmt or let go. Not on you to manage someone else’s employees or wages. Wish we would all stop tipping at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

huh, tipping as outsourced management. Never thought of it like that. So it's a win-win: Lower wages and less work to do!

[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

remember when employers actually paid a living wage and didn’t exploit their employees? … oh, wait …

[–] MaliciousKebab 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

cough europe cough

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hate how every transaction now forces me to pass monetary judgment.

I'd much rather a gratuity be pre-baked into menu prices, so I can easily make purchasing decisions that reflect my financial situation, rather than being surprised at the end.

I hardly go out to eat at all nowadays, partially due to this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Surprised at the end? Just thumb through and click no tip. Stop caving to tipping everyone or avoiding things you like. Don't effing tip.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tipping is a reward for the good service and it is optional.

[–] chickenf622 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Maybe originally, but now a majority of people in the service industry rely on tips cause they are paid like $3/hr

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not even a thing in The rest of the world. I don't think I've ever given a tip in my life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Does rounding up to the nearest 5 (when reasonable) count because I don't like coins?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

USA™ – The default country

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seriously. USA is like the generic video game starter character before anyone's had a chance to customise it and level up. At all. And I say that as someone who lives here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

More like a min/maxed meta whore that only focused on combat and gold generating skills.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You could make a decent wage being a server without tips, but there's legislation saying that they are going to take your proposed taxes from your paychecks before it even gets to your hand. That's why you make $3/hr. Because the government said they're taking their money up front. That's why I think if you do depend on tips, you shouldn't have to report them because then it just turns into the government double dipping. Also restaurant owners have full control to give you more pay, but they won't because it's cheaper for them to depend on customers to pay what they don't want to

https://www.yourrestaurantbusiness.com/is-it-legal-to-pay-waiters-below-minimum-wage/

https://clockify.me/learn/business-management/tipped-wages/#:~:text=Why%20do%20servers%20only%20make,exceeds%20the%20federal%20minimum%20wage.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

Of course I remember; it's now!

And anybody who claims otherwise can go fuck themselves.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Tipping culture is fucked.

Tips shouldn't be allowed to be deducted from wages, and minimum wage needs to be way higher. If this puts some places out of business then good, those places were exploiting their staff, and they'll be replaced. Prices will go up, but they won't go up more than how much it cost before with tip included.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I got a coffee the other day on a date night. Girl (I can say that, she had her pronouns on her nametag) turned the iPad around for me to pay. I shit you not, the options were 0%, 25%, 50%, and "100% if [barista's name] knocked it out of the park today!" Who tf is falling for that?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

What the fuck

[–] agamemnonymous 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] agamemnonymous 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

25-50% on a $2 coffee isn't totally unreasonable if you actually received great service.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Here is some extra money for pouring liquid in a cup and setting it on the counter after taking my other money."

You have to see how ridiculous that is.

[–] agamemnonymous 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Which would be why I specified "if you actually received great service". If the barista spent a few minutes going over the flavor profiles of the roasts, helped you decide, and actually went above and beyond pour-liquid-in-a-cup-and-set-ot-on-the-counter, then yeah I don't think $1 is ridiculous gratuity. Obviously that's a different circumstance than just bare minimum.

[–] Pika 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My main issue with that ideology, while I fully understand that train of thought; Is that that's literally their job. It's not like the guest is coming in and being like yo what were the Powerball numbers last night, can you look up if the Dodgers made it into the series? It's literally questions that as part of their job.

Now if the Barista was like the one that I had a year or so back where they were out of an item and instead of just saying oh we're out, was able to appropriately give an alternative that actually tasted damn close to what the original drink was, you bet your ass I gave them a five. But if that Barista is just telling me what's on the menu and what's in the drink, that is what I would expect the Barista to be able to do regardless and I don't feel like that's going above and beyond or worth a tip

[–] agamemnonymous 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You can tell the difference between "Just doing your job" and "Going above and beyond". If I know what I want and they just pour coffee in a cup, I'm probably not tipping, or maybe I'll round up. If I have a ton of questions and need help deciding, I'll probably throw them a dollar or two, depending on how complicated I make things.

My whole point is if the coffee is like $3, 25-50% is 75¢-$1.50, which is perfectly reasonable for someone who did go above and beyond. I can even see 100% if they were exceptionally fantastic, like that one you had a year or so back. If the coffee is $8, gtfo out of here with those percentages.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If everyone stopped tipping servers would realize it's their boss who is not paying them a livable wage in the first place. Stop subsidizing employers.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I remember when it was 10%

Tipping only exists because people tip.

[–] Leg 2 points 4 months ago

Tipping actually exists because it was an effective way to avoid paying newly freed slaves a fair wage. We just kept kept doing it because it became "what has always been done".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I refuse to tip on anything except things that are traditionally tipped, e.g. haircuts, non–fast food establishments, delivery, etc. I think it's ridiculous how seemingly everything is expecting a tip now.

But, that being said, when I do tip, I tip exceedingly well. Typically a minimum of 80–100%. I know how much they rely on tips, and I love seeing them smile when they see the tip quantity. :)

Downside is I can't afford to go those places or do those things very often. But what can you do? ¯\(•_•)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (32 children)

I've quit tipping for the most part. Unless the service was top notch. I don't tip on payment systems either. When I do tip, I tip the person not the pay app. I get dirty looks but since some businesses have started putting it on my bill I've stopped. Tipping doesn't help the person who deserves the tip. It helps the businesses avoid paying the employee a decent wage.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I'm actually surprised I'm not asked to tip the cashier when I buy gas at the pump...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I only tip when on vacation in countries like Vietnam. Since a few euros is a lot of money there.

Anywhere else not.

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