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just under 50% of people voted in Ohio in the 2020 election.
Trump won by 8%.
If just 9% of the people who felt like you (what's the point of voting) had showed up to vote for Biden, that would have flipped the state.
No single raindrop believes it can make any difference. But together, all those insignificant raindrops can change the course of a river in a single day.
I wish I could nominate your comment to be pinned to the top of responses. Alas, all I have is a single upvote; but you have it.
Each of us upvoted, making this the top comment in the thread. I voted to make a difference.
Team effort. And that's how we win.
Vote anyway. Voter apathy is largely how things got so bad.
I'm in a similarly red state. I know my vote probably isn't going to matter (thanks, ~~Obama~~ Electoral College), but I'm going to do it anyway. And I'm trying to get as many people around me out to vote as well.
You should go vote if for no other reason than to keep Sherrod Brown in his seat.
And honestly nobody knows what's actually going to happen in this election. Ohio is "red" (god I hate that terminology) only by a few points. It's flippable in the right circumstances. Like if people remember that MAGA wants to force 10 year old rape victims to have their attacker's baby.
This is a numbers and momentum game. If you vote AND some of your fellow closeted Midwestern Democrats (or at least pro small-d democracy) vote and convince some people who want to have a chance to fix American democracy to vote for the Democratic nominee, Ohio could flip.
They all could. If there were justice in the world, all 50 states would be "blue" on November 5th because of who Trump is, what he's done in the past, and what he's telling us he'll do in the future.
Vote!
Remember that the president isn’t the only thing on the ballot.
Don’t give up on fighting fascism from your school board up to your state reps. If you organize/join existing groups, you can make your voice heard.
Your vote is sending a signal to future elections. If Ohio has a 20-point red margin, it's unlikely to get any attention from blue candidates. If it has a 5% margin, that changes, and suddenly the next campaign considers spending time & money to try and move the needle.
Remember the old Roman adage: "you're not defeated until you admit defeat". If you don't vote: you've lost. If you vote, you might still lose that election but there's a better chance to win in the future.
Berthold Brecht:
Anyone who stays at home when the war begins and lets others fight for their cause must be careful: because whoever did not share the fight will share the defeat.
Always vote. Progressives lose elections because 30% of any population votes for the conservative at every single election, no matter what, like it's a religion. Progressives need a culture that says: ALWAYS VOTE. It doesn't fucking matter if it doesn't fucking matter. Vote anyway. Let your kids see you voting like it's actually important. Make it important.
One of the best comments I've seen here. Kudos
Yes because there are more options than just president, and increasing voter turnout is always advantageous to the left. There are more Democrats than Republicans in America, so 100% voter turnout means no more fascists in office.
I live in Nebraska and I feel the same way. I go out and vote in every election because that's my civic duty, if the majority of people in your area with our same feeling actually went out and vote it is possible to become a swing state.
That being said my personal opinion is if you don't vote you forfeit your right to complain about politics. You didn't voice your opinion when it was important, so you shouldn't voice it when it's not.
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Deep red Ohio here
Still voting.
Fite me, redcoats
It'll stay red if people don't vote
The more deeply and unanimously red your local lawmakers consider their electorate, the more confident they will be pushing right and far right legislation and building MAGA cultishness. It won't change who's elected, but it can change how your local lawmakers think about what their community wants.
Vote. Try to get others to do the same.
Maybe Democrats don't stand a chance this round, but put up a fight. And if Trump loses you might get a chance to vote again in four years - a higher turnout to Democrats in this round might make it seem less hopeless at the next crossroads. :)
Yes! It's the total votes statewide that determines the winner (POTUS and Senator), no matter which areas of the state they come from. Besides that, a showing of more blue votes in red areas makes a bigger statement to powers-that-be, campaign analysts, etc. than blue votes in blue areas. Represent!
And as everyone else is saying, vote blue for every office on the ballot. The state, county, and city levels are just as important as the national level if not more so. Vote in every election no matter what, even if no one you voted for wins, it matters how close the races are so Dems know where to concentrate their efforts.
For president?
Probably not.
But it might for down ballot races which are still important.
Like in 08 when Obama first ran. Dems made lots of gains in state governments because he drove turnout.
Elections aren't just about the President. That's arguably the least impactful person on the ballot. Look at your local reps running for state positions, find ones you like, they'll have much more impact on your daily life.
Getting you to feel like your vote is meaningless is how they win.
Always vote. There’s always someone analyzing trends, and you don’t truly know where it’s heading until you get there.
I do somewhat understand since I moved to Massachusetts: I’ll get my preference regardless whether I vote. But it does matter, even if it’s just a trend: I was a bit disappointed Biden didn’t quite get 2/3 last time around: he won with only 65.6%. We can do better! My county only voted 71.5% for Biden and there were at least three counties better. We can do better!
At least as importantly, it does give me more freedom to vote third party, in the comfort of knowing my state’s electoral votes will all go toward the sane option. Historically we’ve had reasonably strong showings for third party candidates, but last time was only 2%
Ohio's Electoral College votes are cast for the winner of the state, not per district [1]. Of course you should vote for Biden (or whoever the ultimate candidate against Trump will be)!
[1] - "As a winner-takes-all state, the candidate that wins Ohio gets all 18 Electoral College votes.", https://www.ideastream.org/community/2020-10-21/how-are-ohios-electoral-college-votes-decided
Absolutely yes. Every vote for Democrats is a vote against Trump. He has such a weak ego, your one vote along with millions of other votes against him will drive him crazy. Death by 81,283,098 cuts.
If Ohio voted 15% blue last election and then votes 25% blue this election, that's significant information that tells people there may be momentum for change.
There may not be a chance of winning this election , but every vote tells people what people want.
If you don't vote, Ohio will always look like it will only ever vote red.
Your vote will factor in to how the EC vote goes for Ohio regardless of what Reps get the vote in your district.
Locally, I suppose even if there is no chance for your district to swing blue, a large showing might have a positive effect getting local Repubs to chill on the fascism. Like maybe get a hint that Ohio residents don't want restrictions on their ballot initiatives.
Absolutely. Voting in federal, state, and local elections makes big differences. I've lived in red and blue states, and my votes have personally swayed policy for red and blue states. Some of the stuff I voted for passed on margins as slim as 1,200 votes, in a city of hundreds of thousands of people (guess how many of them voted?)
As a direct result of me voting, my life dramatically improved because my cut bus lines were restored, the feds rebuilt parts of my city, and people were no longer getting arrested on bullshit charges.
Further civic action saved one local park from redevelopment.
So few people actually vote, even fewer with bad takes. So voting can have a profound impact on your life and other's lives. Some of my friends got the right to marry. Some others lost their ability to access healthcare and were forced to move states to access it again. It makes a difference.
This doesn't end with Americans either. You guys worldwide have had a number of extremely close elections, see the list below. Do your civic duty and vote! It can take an hour or less with a bit of research, and has a surprisingly big impact on your life.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results
Every vote for Biden in Steubenville is another vote that somebody in Cleveland doesn't have to counter, so yes, vote.
The electrical vote is state by state (with two states, Maine and Nebraska divying all but two of those votes one per congressional district), so your vote in a swing state matters.
The popular vote tally is what matters on a state level. 48 states (Ohio included) use a state-wide popular vote and award all their electoral votes to the winner of a plurality (highest percentage even if no one gets more than 50%) in that vote.
Please always vote. Ohio isn't so deeply red that it's completely hopeless yet
If you are voting the opposite of the norm in your area, you are making a bigger impact than the reverse of the situation. Go by county and try to flip yours to blue. If it happens to flip, your vote counts 100%, otherwise you have at least tried and voted. Here is some links to check 2020 results by town or county.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/upshot/2020-election-map.html
Always vote, no matter what. If everyone who said it doesn't matter voted your red state might turn blue or at very least purple. Even if it still stays red it will be a sign that people are rejecting Republicans and could force change. Plus lots of races aren't just for president and are local things which can be won with less then 1000 votes in many places so vote every time always.
Yes! Downballot offices usually have a greater effect on your life than higher ones, in fact.
And I guarantee you that if every voter who thought their vote didn't count went out and voted, they damn well would count. The turnout last election was 46% of elligible voters. 46%! Half of us who could vote, didn't! 53% is enough to swing any state.
Yes it absolutely makes a difference. Also make sure you are voting in all elections, local elections are just as important as the national elections.
Ohio is purple too though. It can go both ways as generations shift.
Vote. You don't have to vote for Biden or Trump, you can write in a vote or choose a third party or independent candidate on the ballot, if your State allows it. Not for the reason of making practical change, because it won't in a two party system, but to show the analytics, media, the ruling power that you don't have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Anyone that says otherwise does not know what democracy means and supports a broken system through enabling. Local votes ate more important IMO, always vote for that. The more informed you are, the less likely you are to support a broken system.
While you might be right, it is a civic duty to vote. Your mindset is too dangerous, which is why the right-wing trolls try pushing it. Voting even why you know it won't make a difference is the most basic thing you can do to push back. Who knows what could happen if we get enough people out of that mindset. Simply voting, regardless of who for, is an event that every American should take pride in.
I used to live in a red state and would get discouraged but I voted anyway. Don’t think about and go vote because it’s better than being apathetic and doing nothing like most of the country does.
Yes. Voting is the only way your voice is heard. By not voting, the red majority grows and you effectively do not exist to the political system.
Voting is how you narrow the margins and increase the popular vote. Voting in your local elections is where you have a better say in how things that immediately affect you area. Voting in local and state referendums is also powerful, as it directly affects your local laws and many times can pass or fail by only tens of votes. It might feel hopeless but it is absolutely important that you vote in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION that you are eligible for.
A vote for Biden is a vote against trump Where as a vote for no one is a vote that benefits trump because there’s no one voting against him
Here in Australia, our voting system means you can't waste a vote. If whoever I vote for doesn't win, my vote gets shifted to the next on my list.
Every year I vote for the Animal Justice Party, Environment Australia, Progressive Unity etc. They never win, but my vote is still registered as having gone to them. Eventually my vote shifts along and either lands on the greens who win my electorate, or labour. But they'll still see that the Animal Justice Party DID get a lot of votes, and maybe the Greens or Labour will focus more on animal based policy.
If 49% of your American electorate votes blue, maybe your right wing winner will try to appeal to that sizeable demographic by not being so horribly right wing.
We need as many votes against the bad man as possible to help counter his lies about stolen elections. Yes, it matters that hard numbers can be referenced when backing up facts. I don’t like the guy I have to vote for but I’ll still vote for him even in my deeply blue state (Calif)
