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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, well, mission failed then.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That’s ok. You can always try again yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. If it was possible to travel from the future, we would never see a failed attempt since they would try again. Unless it was intended to be a failed attempt. :)

[–] thetreesaysbark 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Except the gunman was killed right? So he wouldn't be able to try again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

was he "killed", or did the butterfly effect simply wipe him from existence after he accomplished his task?

[–] thetreesaysbark 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He didn't accomplish anything though did he?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe another time traveller disturbed the shooter by pushing him because what would have happened if Trump was shot dead would have been truly apocalyptic in the longer run. Maybe we just witnessed the n-th time loop without remembering the other ones and this is the first one where the bullet only grazes Trump's ear instead of blowing his brains out so now life on Earth as we know it can continue, and we can post about it on Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I smell a groundhog loop

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

PIME TARADOX

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah well nice job fucking that one up, John Titor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just finished this anime and get this reference. I love being in on da me mes

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The anime you saw (which I was unfamiliar with) was based on a "real" thing- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Woah thanks for letting me know! If you like anime steins gate is worth a watch.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tbf, Stein's Gate grabbed a LOT of real world shannanigans to weave into their Science Fantasy plot

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This was my mostly comical thought. You know how people always say they'd go back and off Hitler? But somehow it never happened so either time travel doesn't exist, or they just always fail. We're just getting to see that in real time.

(That said, this fucker definitely changed the future so it's probably not that.)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In my view, it would be naive to assume that killing Hitler before he became Chancellor would guarantee the prevention of the atrocities that followed, and it might even pose the risk of something worse happening. Events don't occur in a vacuum. It's similar to how dropping nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were horrific events in themselves, but who's to say those events aren't the reason nukes have never been used in warfare since? Preventing those bombings might have saved the people in those cities, but it also might have significantly lowered the bar for using nukes, increasing the chance of a true nuclear holocaust during the Cold War, for example.

So maybe time travel is possible, and someone did try to change history by killing Hitler, but then realized the outcome was even worse. Now, they needed an additional assassin to deal with the first one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hiroshima and Nagasaki may have prevented the future that the video game series Fallout predicts, as that never happened in their past.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

There's an interesting theory that Hitler was put in place by time travelers as the last-bad option that wouldn't destroy the timeline.

Hitler (and Trump) made a number of blundering errors that any idiot should've/known better than to make. Had a competent, or even a supervillain-type been in charge, things could've turned out even worse than they did. You don't have to look far- some of these villains attach themselves to those in power. Himmler and Heydrich would've been far worse for the world, but were somewhat limited by not being the ones directly in power.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean, there have been more than a dozen confirmed assassination attempts on Hitler (even suicide bomber attempts among them) and a few more unconfirmed possible attempts. The future did try their best (or just some brave people from the time itself).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Do you realise how many politicians get attacked every day? Do yourself a favour and check it out. It's a lot, it's bot not the safest job in the world, many get killed. There had to be an attack by a time traveler at least once

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My favourite theory of time travel is that in the vast majority of timelines, travelling back in time guarantees that events will unfold as they always will, as given an infinite number of timelines in entropy there will be at least one timeline that forms a loop, and from that point effectively every timeline follows that loop. It may even be a multi-step loop, but it's still a loop and the time travel causes the events that leads to the time travel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The future will always happen.

[–] wheeldawg 5 points 1 month ago

Has always happened. Is always happening.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Time travel is possible. Changing the future however, isn't.

It has to do with wave function collapse. The cat is both alive and dead until its observed, at which point the wave function collapses to reveal which it is.

So let's say you go back in time and successfully kill Hitler. Well you're now observing that outcome from a tangent timeline. In our timeline, that wavefront has already collapsed. There's no takesies backsies. Its immutable.

If you can go back and try again, your just creating new wave funtion collapses, not changing the ones that already occurred.

Its like re-rolling a dice because you didn't like the outcome. You can re-roll as much as you want, it doesn't erase that first roll; its still there, imprinted on the quantum foam of the multi verse.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It was one of the guys from X-COM. He had a 98% percent hit chance but still missed somehow.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

After seen the photo.of his bloody face I have to say, as a non american, i'm sorry for you guys and for ukrane (and the rest of the world of course, since this time things will be MUCH worst). I hope you can recover but idk if you have mich time. I don't think this wako can loose anymore

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Thanks for that. Getting messages like this from outside the U.S. means a lot. For real.

Dark times, here. They were dark yesterday, but today proves things can always be worse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, as an American all I could think was this clinched the campaign for him.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He can't handle security for something like a small concert? He can't handle security for the nation. Do people really think Obama wasn't under constant threat? Please.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

As a Canadian I'm sorry for the Americans but I'm also fucking terrified for what this means for us. We're already seeing it bleed (pun intended) into our borders and I don't think I could handle if our politics went further that way. This is gonna affect a whole lot more than Americans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who's bloody face? As a non-American I'm OOTL ig

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump got shot at a rally, very minor injuries, would be assassin dead

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump was shot at at a rally. Grazed his ear, his security escorted him off stage after a minute or so. There's a photo of him with a bloody ear, surrounded by his bodyguards, fist raised, with the flag in the background. Crazy good photo, arguably historic already.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Found it, legendary photo, hope it doesn't help him become president again though

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or maybe the cia only has a 50% success rate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

100% good guys 0% bad guys.

Math checks out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Red Dwarf is correct, Trump did it.

If not, maybe Vincent Van Gogh?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Ever seen the movie 'The Dead Zone'? Too bad Trump didn't grab a baby.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No it was someone from the past. Trump's boyfriend

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