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[–] [email protected] 181 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Every gun owner thinks they're a responsible gun owner.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Loaded gun in a car door pocket? I don't think these people considered themselves responsible gun owners.

[–] can 93 points 5 months ago

No, I think they did. That's the problem.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago

They probably considered themselves responsible parents as well.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The point is what people claim to be and what people are, are different things.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Here's a story for you. I've only really held a gun once, at a camp riflery range (very small calibers). I still end up doing a fair amount of gun research for understanding gun debates / safety practices, research for fiction where characters have to talk about guns, etc.

I have had to correct other Reddit users that are gun owners, about the workings of basic single-action revolvers, in a very deep/long thread. I briefly doubted myself and checked my own sources, and yes, I was correct and the gun owner was persisting off the idea I was wrong. I'm sure there's some responsible owners out there, but the fact there are so many bull-headed idiots about their guns, who still say they're responsible, should scare anyone.

The specific topic, if you're interested, was on the situation where an old-style revolver is loaded and cocked by an inexperienced user, who then wants to safely decock/unload the gun without firing it (at that point, the cylinder is locked so basic approaches won't work). Feel free to look it up - the approach needed there is pretty damn stupid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't handle guns, I just like westerns and play too many video games:

Don't you have to hold the hammer while you pull the trigger to decock it? The trigger unlocks it, but because you're holding the hammer it doesn't strike the shell?

So in order to safely disarm you have to pull the trigger, which sure sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These people also left their 2 year old in the car by himself while they shopped.

These people are fucking morons, gun or no gun.

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[–] [email protected] 165 points 5 months ago (26 children)

It’s unclear if the parents –  identified by family as Sam Odums and Laileighauna Parks – will face charges in the incident.

The owner absolutely should be charged. Clearly the gun was unsecured.

Also, it was over 90°F in Douglas, GA. You don't leave a fucking toddler in your car with that kind of heat.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even if the AC was left on, I'd have never left my kid in the car alone at 2. So many ways that can go wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 5 months ago

that sentence got more American with every word

[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Maybe the kid killed himself so he wouldn't have to slowly die of heat stroke because his idiot parents left him alone in a car (edit: WITH A LOADED GUN WHAT THE FUCK) in a Walmart parking lot.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (21 children)

It’s too easy to make a baby. It’s really a problem.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog. You need a license to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father. " - Keanu Reeves as Tod Higgins, Parenthood (1989).

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every word of that sentence made it worse. Flip those patents straight to heck

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Forkin’ A

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (7 children)

For everyone focusing on the toddler alone in a hot car part. This was a fireworks stand. So they were probably 10 to 20 feet away. We can hope they opened the windows, which would make it roughly the same temp as where they were. So let's refocus on the gun please.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The question of whether we need to be armed to be capable of defending ourselves against tyrannical governments coming for our lives should have come after the question of whether we are capable of defending ourselves against ourselves.

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[–] LdyMeow 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] LdyMeow 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also what? The grandmother started a gofundme to pay for the funeral costs, so ‘the parents can grieve’?

[–] can 58 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Idiots or not they still grieve.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I definitely don't get the "what" factor in that.

Funerals aren't free and they might not have the money for it, so not having to pay for it would take some burden off them. Yes, they did something incredibly stupid but they've already paid an incalculable price for it.

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[–] SuddenDownpour 26 points 5 months ago

I hate every single part about this headline.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine walking back to your car to get your kid and seeing the scene in Pulp Fiction...yikes

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Leaving an unsecured and loaded weapon in a car with an unsupervised toddler? Sorry for the kid, but the parents fully deserve to see this.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As an advocate of the 2nd amendment who thinks gun regulations need to be more strict assessing theental health of anyone purchasing a gun, I find it very hard to believe parents who leave a child in a hot car with a loaded gun to both go into a store to shop could pass any test of their fucking mental stability. This had to be premeditated whether they can prove it legally. Someone else in the thread said it was 90F when this happened so when you add it all up, a toddler was left out if their carseat, with a loaded gun, in either a running vehicle the kid could've kicked into gear accidently or in a vehicle that wasn't running on a fucking 90 degree day. Way too many cognizant decisions were made to not charge them with 1st degree murder.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As a non-American, it's crazy to me that there (apparently) aren't any safe storage laws enforced. Would it really infringe people's gun rights to require that all firearms may only be in a safe, in your hands, or on your person (in a holster, sling, etc.)?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

So much WTF. Leaving a toddler alone in the car in the middle of Summer with an unsecured loaded firearm in car.

I feel bad for the kid. The only silver lining here is that the parents are keeping their stupidity out of the gene pool.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for the kid, but 2A is more important than that. /s

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I don't leave my carry gun around my adult GF or untrained friends.....everything else is locked up. WTF

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (13 children)

I have a serious question here that I always get when I read news like this. As someone not from the US but having experience with guns through my military training, how is it that toddlers can even pull the trigger of a weapon?

When we had the training for the pistol it was difficult to pull the trigger. IIRC it was even stated that this was by design so that you can't pull the trigger by accident.

Are there no regulations for such a thing in the US or are toddlers that strong to do it anyway?

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