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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Soda stream has been owned by Pepsi for a while now. It’s no longer exclusively manufactured in Israel.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Correct. Per the BNC:

August 22, 2018 — Earlier this week, PepsiCo announced that it signed an agreement to buy SodaStream, a producer of home-carbonation machines. SodaStream has faced global boycotts because of its complicity in Israel’s grave violations of Palestinian human rights.  

Omar Barghouti, co-founder of the BDS movement for Palestinian rights, said:

SodaStream is still subject to boycott by the global, Palestinian-led BDS movement for Palestinian rights. Its new factory is actively  complicit in Israel's policy of displacing the indigenous Bedouin-Palestinian citizens of Israel in the Naqab (Negev). SodaStream's mistreatment of and discrimination against Palestinian workers is not forgotten either.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

cheaper and ethically sourced bubbly water?

absolute win

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sodastream was always such a strange target. It's a niche product, and hasn't been relevant for a decade. Closing their original factory put 100s of Palestinians out of work; it was one of the companies that fostered cooperation between Israelis and Palestinians.

Why not post about a major company like Intel or Apple? They have core products and development in Israel.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

You seem to be here in good faith, so thanks for your contribution but you seem a little misinformed on the sentiment of these changes on the ground. I will do my best to provide context, though others with a greater understanding may doubtless prove more helpful.

Closing the original factory put 100s of Palestinians out of work

Correct, and this was celebrated as a victory by the BDS movement; despite the unfortunate loss of employment opportunities and cooperation it was treated as a net gain for the Palestinian people in the struggle against apartheid Israel.

It’s a niche product, and hasn’t been relevant for a decade.

Again this is a credit that the BDS movement claims. “At the height of the BDS campaign against SodaStream, the company’s share price tumbled and its reputation was damaged,” per Omar Barghouti.

Why not post about a major company like Intel or Apple?

Check my post history. While I haven’t posted about Intel or Apple directly yet, I am working through the official Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions list published by the BNC, of which SodaStream is an entry, as is Intel. Me posting today about SodaStream today should never be taken to imply I don’t support BDS on other institutions—quite the opposite!

^^Highly recommend checking this article out for more information. Hoping this is helpful. Those with more experience in this field please feel free to correct me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I bought a used SodaStream for 40 Canadian dollars and an adapter on Amazon for 20.

I then go to the welding supply store and buy food rated CO2. It is usually called beer gas here in Soviet canuckistan.

I get a 45 lb bottle for $40.

Forty. Five. Pounds.

[–] FellowEnt 4 points 6 months ago

I thought my 15kg bottle was big! Careful you don't knock it over and accidentally create a cruise missile!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I ain't typing those urls. Anyone have the links handy?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

one sec ill add them to the body text, e: done

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

But the other choice is to drink still water and I can't do that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

my buddy drank 1 cups of st*ll water and ended up in the woke hospital for three weeks 🤢

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

just shake the water harder to fizz it up

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I always get confused about that too, no matter how hard you shake still water it's still still water.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if u shake it hard enough and or at a low enough pressure it might become vapor

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah that happened to my penis on lonely night.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I thought of you when I wrote it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I use a Sparkel to make things bubbly, you can buy the baking soda and citric acid in bulk for way cheaper than the packs they sell and can carbonate basically any liquid

[–] funkless_eck 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] zaphodb2002 2 points 6 months ago

I hate this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Someone else did it, it's terrible, because of course it is

Carbonation creates an acidic flavor, which essentially makes milk taste spoiled

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

We have standardized CO2 bottles here, that can be swapped at normal grocery stores. No needrto buy proprietary CO2 cartridges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like it too, but still need to buy the sodastream co2 bottles

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I use Aarke's subscription. They have a branding deal with sodasense.

There are also tutorials on how to set up c02 tanks, a little cost up front but far cheaper than any other option.