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[–] captain_aggravated 126 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't The First Weeaboo a movie about a white American who is traumatized by and hates American culture coming to Japan and finding friendship, community, peace, love and happiness in traditional Japanese culture, with a couple of kinda cool action scenes?

Yeah, can't figure out why the Japanese like this movie.

[–] SuddenDownpour 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

and finding friendship, community, peace, love and happiness

Good luck trying to get 4channers to understand what any of those words mean, especially after the spirit of NTR has been invoked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Good luck trying to get 4channers to understand what any of those words mean

And that can be said for so many topics.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I highly recommend watching shogun by the way. the new one, not the 80s one

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with the 80s one? I loved that show

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

just clarified what version I meant😄 but I aldo read that it's not as accurate to the book and has a lotnof stuff cut out

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

has a lotnof stuff cut out

I was surprised, because in my memory the show ran for years and was very slow paced. So I looked it up, and it seems I was thinking of a different series (Kung Fu, 1972)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Kung Fu was supposed to star Bruce Lee. It was stolen out from under him because white people and racism. In response he wrote Warrior, which his daughter finally got made recently. Definitely worth a watch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

haha, can't remember anything😄

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Haven't watched the whole 1st season yet but it does indeed seem really good!

My favorite part so far is when the russian Pringles guy yells "Shogun, Geronimo!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I'm going to watch this show now just so i can see this Russian Pringles guy for myself, lol! Not enough Pringles guys out there these days

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Little disappointing towards the end, but all in all fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They are definitely banking on season 2

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Wasn't this planned as a limited series? I know there's talk here and there about a second season but there's nothing confirmed yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I haven't got it to the end yet. I think I'm at sixth episode, sitill holding up really well imo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Series is great, last episode covers a lot of ground but simultaneously feels like trying to summarize the series as a whole while also build hype for a second season.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sake? What's going on? Answer me. Sake? Saaaaake!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

That's exactly how I read it first, too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I find it hilarious that this is by far my most vivid memory of this movie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I mean, I remember the cool part where the guy gets his throat stabbed by a broken pennant... And the part where the cranked minigun gets unveiled. Those were some well done scenes.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People like it when anyone engages with their history/culture earnestly.

I think in this case you also have the weird juxtaposition of an American in the story of Japan moving to a western style system and leaving behind their isolationist policies.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like Paul Mooney's take on that movie.

You'll have to look it up yourselves though. My complexion prohibits me from accurately quoting almost everything that Paul Mooney has ever said.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I found this comment while looking for the quote.

The words samurai is considered the plural form. The movie is about Lord Katsumoto and his clan of samurai during the period in the transformation of Japan from a feudal society into a modern industrial power. Not exclusively about Tom Cruise’s character. Katsumoto felt that Japan was changing too rapidly and it’s losing its cultural values and traditions in the rush to become regional power.

Still not interested in seeing a Tom Cruise movie, but it's an interesting insight that goes past the normal knee jerk reaction.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Still not interested in seeing a Tom Cruise movie

Cool dude alert

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What has two thumbs and doesn't like Tom Cruise?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He's a weird dude, but a decent actor. Credit where credit is due.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He is part of a cult that kills people. Its fine not to support him based on that

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 8 months ago

I'm not suggesting anyone should "support" him, I'm just saying he's a decent actor. That's it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Allllriggghhhhhhtyy then"

That's the guy right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Hate the guy, love the actor. He just makes mostly great movies.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh yeah, it's absolutely a very interesting period in Japanese history and if Cruise's character was used as a symbol of the fear of westernization of Japan post Meiji Restoration, that would be cool. Most of the criticism revolved around Hollywood's habit of using western actors to tell other people's stories. Samurai being is own plural form is just a happy accident that makes the jokes easier.

But he was just there as a big name for box office draw, and probably as an excuse to ditch a lot of subtitles. If I'm inclined to be ungenerous, I have a few other suspicions as well.

It's kind of like Kundun vs. Seven Years in Tibet. It's as if a studio executive said "Yeah, that's a great story, but let's stick Brad Pitt in there to put asses in seats." But at least with the latter, it was based on a book written by the real life traveler.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The words samurai is considered the plural form

That's... not how Japanese works

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

English (like any other language) likes to take loan words and apply its conventions to them, regardless of what the original language does. "Samurai" is singular and plural in English.

"The Last Samurai" is vague in who it's referring to.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I said Japanese though, not English. "samurai" is both singular and plural in both languages

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

What are you arguing about? The statement I quoted said that "samurai" is plural. Nothing that you said has contradicted that. In fact, you're only agreeing with it with this last statement. Doesn't matter that it didn't mention if it can be used as singular as it's not relevant.

[–] Tb0n3 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

NTR is pretty big in Japan.

[–] Ashyr 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

NTR is an abbreviation for "netorare", a Japanese word that translates to "cuckoldry" in English.

[–] Audacious 12 points 8 months ago

Abbreviation for Netorare, which means cuckholding genre in Japan.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We welcome our new tiny European overlords.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Really more of a middlelord at most.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if this also correlates to an increase in popularity of Scientology in Japan

[–] mindbleach 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They've got their own cults to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's what the Thingamajig™ was for

[–] mindbleach 2 points 8 months ago

I love how I've never heard it called that, and yet immediately knew exactly what it was.