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Patient Gamers

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A gaming community free from the hype and oversaturation of current releases, catering to gamers who wait at least 12 months after release to play a game. Whether it's price, waiting for bugs/issues to be patched, DLC to be released, don't meet the system requirements, or just haven't had the time to keep up with the latest releases.

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I love the original patientgamers subreddit so I was stoked to find this community. And because lemmy seems to have a more knowledgeable crowd any topic I posted here had great engagement and discussions, despite the small community. I am too busy to be a mod but maybe I can help by sparking this discussion: what would be needed to keep this sub going?

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[–] Deceptichum 167 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Wait 3 years and post when upvotes are cheap.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I always wait for vote sales. People preordering upvotes are crazy

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

c/PatientPatientGamingPosting

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I've got a whole library of upvotes that I haven't even used yet.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Don't forget to make sure it's a "complete" or "GOTY" post, nothing worse than waiting for a mediocre deal on an incomplete post

[–] Deceptichum 9 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Also all the spelling and gramatical errors will have been fixed by then.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 months ago

I am very patient, so I'm in no rush for this community. Time only gives us more content,

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Post stuff akin to what's on /r/patientgamers. Comment on posts.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Commenting is important. I look at my feed under Hot and I see a bunch of new posts over the last few hours and they all have 0 comments. Lemmy w/o comments is just a community-driven RSS feed. I comment first when I actually have something to add but it's just as important as posting new links.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So, just looking at the top 15 items of what's presently on /r/patientgamers:

https://old.reddit.com/r/patientgamers/

  • A daily stickied post for small, general conversation where people don't want to do a full submission.

  • People talking about their impressions on games that they've just finished or played: 10

  • Broader discussion items ("Did anyone else like Skyrim, but wasn't able to get into Fallout 4?", "The Borderlands Movie Should Have Adapted Telltale's Tales from the Borderlands", "Help Me Remember - Gaming's Keepsakes"): 3

  • Talking about a series overall ("I'm glad Need for Speed games are still focussing on the story"): 1

In my own Reddit experience, the stickied regular post has mostly been useful for when there's too much traffic on a particular topic. /r/europe did megathreads to keep Ukraine war traffic from overwhelming the sub. However, there are some subs that do daily posts for small conversation items, maybe to lower the bar for people to comment. /r/cataclysmdda does this. @caut_[email protected] commented in this thread and said that the bar to creating a new post was substantial for him:

Maybe I‘m just jaded by Reddit‘s „ackshually“ culture that jumps on you if a post‘s not a well thought out thesis, but I feel pressured to deliver substantial quality when posting (not commenting) on boards and I‘m too tired from the day for that.

...so maybe that's applicable here.

The lion's share of the posts, though, is just people posting about some game that they played and their impressions. So maybe that?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I liked the weekly/bi-weekly „What are you playing“ posts, but they seem to have stopped, even on the bigger „games“ subs.

I‘d post about games I‘ve played lately (like Unravel) but I feel like „was a cool game with a cool style which made me enjoy the graphics even today and was interesting to platinum“ doesn‘t start much of a discussion.

Maybe I‘m just jaded by Reddit‘s „ackshually“ culture that jumps on you if a post‘s not a well thought out thesis, but I feel pressured to deliver substantial quality when posting (not commenting) on boards and I‘m too tired from the day for that.

Which is why I liked the „What are you playing“ posts since I could just drop a one liner and comment on other one liners of people who are enjoying games I‘ve enjoyed as well lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I‘d post about games I‘ve played lately (like Unravel) but I feel like „was a cool game with a cool style which made me enjoy the graphics even today and was interesting to platinum“ doesn‘t start much of a discussion.

I'll be the first to admit I mainly lurk, but I'd be interested to read about games people find interesting. Who knows, might be a title which flew under my radar and was one introduction away from being my all time favorite.

But yea, the "what are you playing" threads were fun reads.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I liked the weekly/bi-weekly „What are you playing“ posts, but they seem to have stopped, even on the bigger „games“ subs.

Well, [email protected] and [email protected] both have stickied posts from this week of that sort up with activity. How many gaming subs do you read?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I‘m on another patient gamers sub, and the games sub on lemmy.world. The biggest weakness of Lemmy IMO is how fractured communities can become due to very similar subs on different instances - which this is now an example of, I suppose, since I had no idea about the ones you mentioned lol

I‘ll check them out later, although it obviously doesn‘t help this sub specifically

[–] Deceptichum 15 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The biggest weakness of Lemmy IMO is how fractured communities can become due to very similar subs on different instances

Agreed, and also why I think Lemmy will never progress past a niche audience despite being capable of doing so. It'd be nice if there was a feature that allowed instances to merge all like-named communities into a singular one. I know cross posting was meant to help address the problem, but that's a manual process that falls quite short in resolving the core issue.

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[–] can 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Beehaw deliberately cuts theirs* off from two of the biggest Lemmy instances so I wouldn't expect much there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ohhhh, that's a good thought. Beehaw.org's pretty aggressive about defederation when they have problems with users. I'm on lemmy.today, and they haven't defederated from there, so I'm still seeing what's current on there.

Well, a direct link to see what's on there, bypassing defederations: https://beehaw.org/c/gaming

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I...appreciate the effort, bot. It's good to know that you're looking out for us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I‘m on another patient gamers sub, and the games sub on lemmy.world.

Heh, fair enough.

I had no idea about the ones you mentioned lol

If you hit lemmyverse.net, they've got a "search all instances by communities by name" feature, which I think is probably currently the most-realistic way to find communities across all of the Threadiverse.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities

Note that their kbin indexing isn't great -- you need to explicitly choose "kbin magazines" from the upper-right hamburger menu; it doesn't combine kbin and lemmy results. And they don't currently index at least kbin.social, which is the largest kbin instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

In my experience, having a weekly sticky like that is essential for engagement. There are plenty of people here, they just aren't making threads. If you get people in the habit of dropping by once a week, they are more likely to post.

I'd also make the suggestion to scale the rule back to 6 months from 12. It's a good idea in general for a slow community and there were multiple big games that came out in that month 7 through 12 time period. Can always change it back when the community is active. /r/patientgamers was 6 months until semi-recently.

That said, this doesn't have to be a carbon copy of the subreddit. I liked the Meme Monday suggestion that was posed. Anything to drive engagement.

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[–] Gullible 26 points 4 months ago

A low effort post day would help. Meme Monday or something.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Just be patient bro

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Post when games get a free day on platforms like Steam or GOG?

Post when games are at a new low price point (< $20 USD and < 50% their launch price?)

I'm waiting for Rimworld to drop to $15.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like others have mentioned, I am in the same boat of having multiple communities to follow with the same name but on different instances and I forget about others or (more likely) don't even know that others exist.

It does bug me that I can't group communities that exist on different instances together. It would be nice to be able to subscribe to a collection of communities that I can give a label to.

A way to group all patientgamers communities together would be a huge help.

It's just the way the whole federation stuff works I guess. And I like it...Except for when I don't 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Send a suggestion to your Lemmy app developer! That honestly sounds like a great idea I could see being implemented by like Sync or something.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

We’ve had trouble over at true gaming getting things cooking as well. Maybe I can reach out to the mods and see if there’s some cooperation to be had here as we’re likely too fragmented at present. I’ll talk to our mod team today and see if we can think of something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (9 children)

[email protected]. Try to use the bang syntax when linking communities rather than direct linking it like that, so that others can click it and access it from their own instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Also, on the user side of that, for when someone doesn't use said syntax, note that there's a Firefox, Chrome, and Edge extension, "Instance Assistant for Lemmy & Kbin", where one can set one's home instance. It'll add a button in the sidebar in threads on remote instances where one can just click on "view in my home instance".

[email protected]

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lemmy-instance-assistant/

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/instance-assistant-for-le/mbblbalkjcikhpladidpimlfiapdffdh

https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/instance-assistant-for-le/hnlndgeokcaocdklkbfjbfjplfnedehb

https://github.com/cynber/lemmy-instance-assistant

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 9 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Did not know this existed. Can't say I specifically wait three months but tend to just play what comes my way. I like never complete games so they go on forever for me. Imma sub.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Kinda the same, and it's almost an irony since I'm on my own instance. I must have manually subscribed to this community myself, and I think this is the first post I've ever seen on my front page from it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I can't post about game impressions that often because I am very slow at my gaming... With that said I just finished The Last Window for Nintendo DS again (remember next to nothing about the plot) and god I had a blast with it!

I recommend it to anyone who is looking for a visual novel, but it would be wiser to play Hotel Dusk first if you haven't yet, as The Last Window is a sequel.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I posted a question to my hometown lemmy community and wondered why I wasn't getting any responses. Then realised it had ~1 active user per month... who was probably me.

This community seems pretty jumping by comparison!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

If it is a community rather than an instance it might still get some views. A lot of people on Lemmy are still browsing by all/new and they'd see it in that instance and wherever that community is federated.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The monthly recommendation thread is from 3 months ago so doing that regularly is a start. It at least shows the community is active if it gets updated on time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I dunno I never really fit in that sub because I am not only a patient gamer but I also don't care to play every game under the sun. I'm patient because I don't spend money on upgrading my rig and because I enjoy playing 1 game for 1000 hours rather than 100 games for 10 hours. I just beat MHW: Iceborne recently and like, that's pretty cool. I might buy the new Diablo 2 update some day maybe. What else do I gotta say?

I need to find an appropriate community to vent about microtransactions in mobile games. I just dipped into that world since I have more downtime out of the house, but I'm pretty disgusted with the quality of mobile gaming right now. What happened?!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I think the two main points would be already mentioned regular "what are you playing" posts and just writing yourelf whenever you have a chance. I think that livier communities encourage engagement while "dead" ones make people less willing to participate as that means they'll more likely to become the center of attention and not everyone is comfortable with that.

Personally, I've been meaning to write some posts about the stuff I played recently but just didn't have time to do so. Maybe this week...

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