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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bitwarden all day every day. I don’t even know any of my passwords because they’re all randomly generated. Try to guess my password now hacker man

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yup randomly generated 20+ digit passwords are the way to go

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a legitimate reason to use 20 characters over 16? Genuinely asking. Bitwarden considers them both "strong", taking centuries to crack.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the more characters you have the higher the entropy of the password and the harder it would be to crack. So when you don't have to remember the password yourself there's no reason not to use a very long password if the service you're using allows it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except no one cracks passwords. Vast majority of hacks is through social networking and trojans. The days of password cracking are long over especially considering most services lock you out after several failed attempts.

The main argument for using a password manager is so you can have a different password for every service. This way if they manage to obtain one password they can’t access everything.

It also makes rotating passwords a lot easier so that way you’re not using the same password forever. If your password gets out hopefully it’s changed before they use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Offline password cracking is still very much a thing. They steal the entire password database then crack it offline at their leisure, not live against the regular login.

Several measures are required to defend against this:

  • Hash seeds defend against rainbow tables.
  • Password length & complexity as well as using computationally-intensive hash algorithms defend against the brute-force cracking.
  • Password managers help with length and complexity, sad well as promote not reusing passwords.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When possible I use passphrases with numbers added. Sadly my bank has a 16 character limit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? Do you know how long it takes to crack a 16 character password?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's probably..... Um... 8#shJo9$f ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use Bitwarden!! It's great cause I have a long complicated password to access the vault (my phone will do it by fingerprint though) but it's the only password I need to actually memorize. Don't know how someone can be secure without one nowadays, way too many services

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Bitwarden, all the way.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use keepass synced with internxt. Works so so , but internxt will hopefully improve

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out Syncthing. It works pretty painlessly.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Thanks completely forgot about it , used it a few years back and had some issues. Seems to work great now :)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

KeePassXC here. Locally encrypted, Locally stored, cloud backup of an encrypted file, synced with SyncThing to mobile devices. I will never trust nor recommend a cloud based manager with all the breaches.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I had to scroll too far to find KeePassXC + syncthing recommended; with syncthing, I see no reason to sacrifice security by using a cloud solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, KeePassXC + SyncThing all day every day. Can't in good conscience trust someone else with my sensitive data, even if I encrypt it before it gets to their servers. My database is keys-to-the-kingdom level shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, someone, finally :D KeepassXC on PC, KeepassDX on Android, Syncthing for synchronization. I like when my password is just one file, that I can easily backup, not some cloud thing 🙂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the way.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Everyone should be using a password manager. Every service should have a different password (and some service should have several passwords) and it's impossible for the average person to keep track of all of those. Every time I hear about someone losing control of an account it's because they were using the same password as another service.

I recommend:

  • KeePassDX: Can be completely offline. Probably the most secure but can be a little awkward to use sometimes.
  • Bitwarden: Cloud based but open source. You could run a server but the main service offers MOST of the features for free.

Your mileage may very with some of the proprietary platforms. However my job uses 1 Password and it seems to be fairly safe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not using a password manager (be it digital or simply a paper notebook) is just asking for a breach or getting hacked.

No one can remember the amount and complexity of passwords that are needed to live a secure digital live.

Every service/account you register for years now and couldn't live without it. I've set up a paper notebook for my mother and that works too.

But reusing passwords or using too short or insecure passwords is the number one reason why people get hacked or stuff gets leaked and stolen.

As a side note: a secure password doesn't have to include weird characters. Just make it long. Everything with 32 letters and numbers or longer will be super secure for a while. And because your password manager takes of it, you don't even notice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A password manager is an absolute must, in my opinion! I use Bitwarden and love it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, do it! Now! It’s the safest way, but only by choosing the right and trusted ones. Examples:

  • The expensive but good one: 1Password
  • The free, geeky and difficult one for normal users: Keepass.
  • The simple and free and beloved one: Bitwarden
  • The don’t try it ever because they will leak your data: Lastpass.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The simple and free and beloved one

You're not giving Bitwarden much credit here. It's really great.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

One of the best decisions - software wise - I made was to switch from Lastpass to Bitwarden. Never going back!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bitwarden is really great imo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Password manager-less life with notebooks and reused passwords is life in the stone age. If you or anyone you know isn't using one, get on bitwarden.

Everyone knows why password manageras are absolutely essential, but here's an often neglected perk: I can list every site I ever signed up to. Wanna delete some old accounts? "Did you sign up to X yet?" Simples.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I use Bitwarden!

I like that I can share password with my team. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I know a lot of people are saying Bitwarden, but I've been using 1Password for 4 years and Bitwarden just isn't a viable replacment.

1Password looks much more modern and their organizational tools are not present at all in Bitwarden. I can't even sort by date created or modified in Bitwarden.

Not using a password manager is like not having locks on a house. Everyone should have one and if you don't, you're risking a lot of valuable stuff being taken from you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, they should be used. KeepassXC FTW

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's an exploit that will dump all you passwords as raw text as a feature

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In general, password managers are a must-have in today's world. The question is not if you should have one, but which one and why.

As a Software Engineer very conscious about security and privacy, but also with a high practicality sense, I'd say you should opt for whatever you feel more comfortable.

If you don't want to manage anything, then 1password, BitWarden, LastPass or any of those might be right for you. If you are more of the kind to tinker with everything, then you can have your own OwnCloud/NextCloud and use KeePassXC.

I particularly used the later setup, but NextCloud was too much to handle for me, and settled with KeePassXC + Dropbox.

You do you, but use a password manager.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

KeePass is the perfect tool for me ! The cybersecurity practice at work also use it,

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Over the last 15 years or so I've moved from 1Password to LastPass to Bitwarden. I don't know how anyone manages without them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have a bit of an eidetic memory so I just come up with ridiculously long complicated strings of numbers and letters and memorize them. Don't know how I do it. Don't know how my brain keeps up with it but it works for me. And I have the plus side of not ever having my shit saved digitally I guess it probably doesn't matter but whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Love dashlane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, shit. I don't use a password manager but now I feel like I should lol. Gonna check out bitwarden I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm probably going to get grilled for this but I've Been using Firefox's Saved passwords, I really don't need anything better.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just use 123password for all of my passwords, so I don't need one.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can’t imagine life without one. So many bad password habits can be eliminated by using a password manager to generate a strong, unique password for every site you use, and devoting your limited password-remembering powers to one decent master password. (Or better yet, secure your password manager further using other forms of authentication.)

It’s not just for helping you (and your less technically inclined friends and family) remember and use strong, unique passwords, though. Since a password manager only recognizes the real web address that any given password was designated to, it won’t be fooled by a scam website using a similar-looking name to a legitimate one. While this doesn’t eliminate the risk of falling for a scam, every little bit helps, no matter how skilled you are at cybersecurity.

I use Bitwarden, which I’ve been using ever since Lastpass started limiting you to using a single device class (mobile or desktop) for free accounts. It integrates with both Firefox and Chromium-based browsers and with the password manager features in smartphones. Their free account is nice, but I went with the paid option so that I could keep and use 2FA passcodes within Bitwarden itself. There have been several debates between doing it like this versus using a separate authenticator app, but I feel like it’s both very secure and really, really convenient. It encourages me to use increased security on every website that supports it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use Bitwarden. Used to use Last pass, but that got crappy a while back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

One another Bitwarden user chiming in!

I started with LastPass but they started making things difficult enough on the mobile side that I decided to jump ships. Bitwarden also is a smoother app to use - LastPass felt clunkier (I've used only the free side on both).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Been using 1password family subscription for years. Absolutely swear by it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in the Bitwarden camp. There is no other way for me to have complex/secure passwords and remember them for my gazillion accounts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What are my thoughts on a password manager?

I think it’s both a good thing, and a crutch. I feel the fact that most services are rendered unusable without an account is sad, and with the 100’s of accounts one is expected to have a password manager is sadly needed if you can’t memorize a password or can make passwords with a consistent pass phrase.

Do I use one?

Nope, I have a password system which is good enough for most accounts that’s always more than 7 character long and unique for each account without being lost to me. The only time it has failed as when my work decided to have us change our passwords every quarter, and I ran out of password ideas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

KeePassXC is awesome, used it for years. Works great with browser plugin, secure. Sync with Syncthing across all computers and devices.

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