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UVALDE, Texas (AP) — An investigation Uvalde city leaders ordered into the Robb Elementary School shooting cleared local police officers of wrongdoing Thursday, despite acknowledging a series of rippling failures during the fumbled response to the 2022 classroom attack that left 19 children and two teachers dead.

Several family members of victims walked out in anger midway though a presentation that portrayed Uvalde Police Department officers of acting swiftly and appropriately, in contrast to scathing and sweeping past reports that faulted police at every level.

“You said they did it in good faith. You call that good faith? They stood there 77 minutes,” said Kimberly Mata-Rubio, whose daughter was among those killed in the attack, after the presentation ended.

Another person in the crowd screamed, “Cowards!”

Jesse Prado, an Austin-based investigator and former police detective who made the report for the Uvalde City Council on Thursday, described several failures by responding local, state and federal officers at the scene that day: communication problems, poor training for live shooter situations, lack of available equipment and delays on breaching the classroom.

“There were problems all day long with communication and lack of it. The officers had no way of knowing what was being planned, what was being said,” Prado said. “If they would have had a ballistic shield, it would have been enough to get them to the door.”

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did anybody honestly think they were gonna do something to them? There was a whole reason while there were marches for police accountability, BLM, and racism during covid.

Nothing changed.

ACAB

[–] [email protected] 86 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Nothing changed.

Not true!

A bipartisan bill was passed to increase Federal police budgets by something like $40 billion.

Nevermind all that police protest, we just need to give cops more money, I guess, and that will solve everything. /s

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And we got the thin blue line flag. Cuz you know police rights or something

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Hey, give them a break. They're a persecuted minority!

Or they persecute minorities. One of the two.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Hey, give them a break! They work a dangerous job and just want to go home every day! Never mind that they're not even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs, or that they've willingly signed up to put their lives on the line. No, they just want to go home at night donchaknow!

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 9 months ago (4 children)

if they just had a ballistic shield they could have made it to the door

The state trooper that finally shot the fucker literally ran in with a shot gun. Fucking cowards.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago

... This ghoul seriously forced in a talking point asking for more equipment? To grieving parents who watched their kids die while the police were derelict in their duty? 50% of the city budget isn’t enough huh?

The report for the Uvalde city council… was conducted by Jesse Prado, an Austin-based investigator and former police detective.

Ah. “We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing” despite the feds openly stating the opposite

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago

Next time just say the shooter is a black man and watch them go.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Yup, once a team decides not to go in, they won't go. There will always be another goalpost to move. If they had the shield, they would be waiting for one more guy, or a specialized unit or a robot to go in.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

After driving in from an hour away. Or more.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 months ago (21 children)

I dunno. If only people had voted in a change of leadership after a failure of leadership or something.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uvaldes is majority conservative according to Google, so that wouldn’t have happened. I expect nothing less of Texas

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That’s what makes me saddest. Their community was wounded directly and that wasn’t enough to cause change. There’s no hope for them.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately they got the government they voted for, and decided that nothing was good enough.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It was the republican primary for the election. He didn't get reelected.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He got 64 percent of the vote in the primary. He's running against two other republicans. The do-nothing incompetent sheriff is still likely to win.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (10 children)

That may be true, but he still wasn't reelected on Tuesday.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But what are his chances in the general? Is it a location where the "real" election is the primary and whoever has an R by their name in the general will win?

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"The officers didn't actually shoot any of the children themselves, so therefor they did nothing wrong."

[–] AlligatorBlizzard 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did they ever release the body cam footage to confirm that they didn't?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (5 children)

That footage will never, and I mean, NEVER see the light of day. It will have to be leaked to get out.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If they did no wrong, then they would release it. Since they haven't released it and never will, wrong has definitely been done.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

It was a primary. He didn't get reelected.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So they've (officially) done nothing wrong? Does that imply that it's not wrong to laze about while a shooter—who they obviously knew about—works unimpeded to hollow out classrooms with a fucking carbine?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Legally I think that's exactly what that implies. Cops are under no obligation to defend anyone. They are law enforcement officers, not protection for civilians.

ACAB. Their job is to keep us in line, not protect us.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Missteps" implies that the police did things.

They failed to act and instead they let children get murdered. I know the SC said that cops don't have to protect you whatsoever, but this is beyond the pale. You have a duty to the American people given that they pay your salary, you fat fucking worthless pitiful excuses for law "enforcement".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

The precedent is that an individual officer has no duty to protect any given individual on the basis that the collective police have a responsibility to the public as a whole that outweighs an individual. That argument doesn’t work when the entire department stood by and actively prevented any action against the shooter.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they just overwhelmingly reelect the sheriff that was part of that fiasco?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was just the primary. He won't be reelected for another few months.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Say it with me folks: ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS Dont forget it

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Where was this outrage when it came to voting against the same sheriff? Or voting for Abbott?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The investigator who presented the report blamed families who rushed to the school that day for compromising the police response, prompting an eruption of anger from several families and some stormed out.

Classy, investigator-who-prepared-the-report. What are you, some dumbass cop?

Jesse Prado, an Austin-based investigator and former police detective who made the report for the Uvalde City Council,

Oh. Yeah. Well.

Yeah.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Of course a former police detective would find the police did nothing wrong.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://radiolab.org/podcast/no-special-duty

A fantastic episode that basically covers their asses. The police, according to the law, have no special duty/requirement to protect someone who is being attacked.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So every time you see police protecting nazi protesters, remember: they chose to protect those nazis. Just like they chose to let kids bleed out in Uvalde.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Nononooo…

They’re not defending Nazis. They’re defending other cops. Who happen to be Nazis.

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