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[-] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago

I don't know how it is in other countries, but here in the UK we still have light sockets rated for the older incandescent bulbs that needed around 60W. But LEDs are much more efficient. Sometimes you see LED bulbs with absurd things like '5W = 60W' written on them, meaning that it actually uses 5W, but it's as bright as an old 60W bulb. You basically don't need to worry about the safety limit of the socket, since the LEDs are way under it. Of course since the socket is rated for 60W you could plug in a 60W LED, which would be as bright as an 720W incandescent bulb.

Which I suspect is what this person did to their poor fridge.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Even then, where the hell did they get a 60W LED? LEDs with those kinds of power ratings are pretty hard to find, and they're going to be fairly expensive as well.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

60W LED bulbs don't exist because the form factor does not allow them to dissipate heat fast enough to keep LED chips that produce >50 W in heat below 150 °C. Fixtures of 20-100+ watts are available as COB modules that get mounted into work light reflectors where the entire back side is the heatsink. Their driver is very simple, so they are cheap but flicker at double the mains frequency. You can mount one in a fridge with adhesive heatsink compound and unsafe wiring modifications, assuming it fits under the cover if the socket is removed. An alternative is a long low-voltage LED strip wound all around the fridge's interior several times.

[-] jballs 5 points 4 months ago

Bulb gets too hot. Put it in refrigerator. Problem solved.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What's worse is having dimmable bulbs. A dimmer is required to have the maximum wattage of 120 W or so because there will always be some idiot who decides to put an incandescent bulb in and risks burning the house down.

We could have dimmers a tenth of their size if people stopped being idiots. Instead we need to deal with those massive 4x4x4cm boxes that can't be fitted into many walls.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

If it was actually 200 watts it would probably outpower the heat transfer capacity of the fridge.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If it's led 200w equivalent then it's fine.

Those max ratings are for incandescent bulbs

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Maybe, but the light only turns on when it's open, and when it's open you have bigger cooling issues than the bulb wattage

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Thats's a good point

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Probably yeah.

(am gonna use European standards here sorry Ameribruvs.)

Also, 200w bulbs that fit into fridge socket? The "40w max" is usually in normal E27 sockets. (The regular light bulb socket.) And the largest lamps for those I've seen are around 50-80w, and pretty much always sold as "growlamps".

Going to 200w you'd need an E40 socket. They're about twice the size of the "regular" E27 (and E14 is the smaller "candle" socket, that's like half the diameter of the regular one). Here's what a 200w bulb looks like and remember that the socket is twice the size of a regular one. That bulb is like ~40cm long.

Idk what socket fridges use though, but I seriously doubt it's anything close to an E40 size.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

100 and 120 watt incandescent lamps were common as well at E27

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It's probably a 25w led though I wouldn't have thought they would fit in a fridge

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Okay but who puts bread in their fridge, what, do you live in a Soulsborne poison swamp level? It's bread.

Edit: The question was rhetorical, guys. 😅

[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

It lasts a few days longer because I can’t finish 18 slices of bread in 4 days.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago
[-] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

I do sometimes actually. I live alone and don't use a ton of bread, so keeping it in the fridge keeps it from molding quickly.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

It does however cause it to go stale much faster. Better idea is to keep it in the freezer and take out a little bread as needed, then thawing out more as you eat.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

That's fair - I bake, but my family eats it almost faster than I can make it. Skews my perception of bread.

I see half loaves on the shelf sometimes these days, might be an idea

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When I still lived with my parents, they kept bread in a room temperature and we quite often had to toss away moldy ones. When I moved on my own I started keeping it in the fridge and I don't think I've had mold once. I toast it virtually every time anyway so doesn't really matter. Also it's dark rye bread which probably keeps differently than one made from while flour

[-] sangriaferret 5 points 4 months ago

South Louisiana. I put my bread in freezer during the summer or it will be moldy in two days.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You only mean fridge right, not freezer?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Well yeah, you can freeze it no problem. Someone made that point, I'm not arguing

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

With the right bulb, you can cook straight in your fridge!

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I'm really hoping they're just going by what they see on the packaging at Walmart where lightbulb wattage is shown as an equivalent measurement for lumens and that it's not the actual power consumption. Fridge lightbulbs should not take as much power to run as an AC unit.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Reminds of when the host of Technology Connections said that he has an electric car that he charges at home and his favorite Christmas lights still double his bill

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure the 200 is either watt equivalent or lumen. 200W would fuck up your fridge.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure this is just a story and an overexposed or edited photo.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

200 lumens isn't really that bright. I'm still not quite sure what the hell one lumen is based on but it's not a particularly bright thing.

What OP appears to have there is a "Night Sun" light normally fitted to police helicopters and search and rescue craft.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

1 lumen = 1 candela * r^2

Essentially the light of one candle with a specific angle of emission

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Midnight snacking countermeasures. This is like setting off a flashbang if opened in a dark kitchen at night.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Yes that's what it said at the bottom of the image.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

You should get the right one ASAP, as the socket might not be able to cope with the power draw and heat.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Probably an led 200w "equivalent". I feel like it would have already burned out otherwise.

[-] You999 9 points 4 months ago

I'm leaning towards they cranked the exposure as refrigerator light bulbs are generally T7 or A15 bulbs and to my knowledge no one makes a bulb that bright in those sizes

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

I didn't even know they still made bulbs over 10W.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

You should check out some higher wattage ones, I’ve seen up to 300

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Maybe it's because it's all LED in the EU now, we don't really do the old tungsten lining or halogen anymore.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

When you buy a lightbulb (at least here in the UK) it almost always still has the incandescent-equivalent on it as well as the actual wattage.

People are still used to thinking in old terms that you want 100W for a ceiling lamp and 60W for a table lamp, for example.

So this light in the fridge could be 200W equivalent but not actually 200W consumption.

Thinking about it, lightbulb itself is at this point a ridiculously achronistic term, there's nothing really 'bulb' about them anymore.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's because my parents bought out all the incandescent bulbs. Something about not making them them like they used to. There are none left.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Not quite all : I don't think LED's can withstand the heat of an oven. Though I don't see the need for a 200W bulb in an oven. Maybe as the heating element in a toy easy-bake oven?

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Me, scrolling in dark mode:...

This post: Not anymore, chucklenuts!

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I'm doing this to keep the kids out

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

The post made me laugh. On a serious note, those "maximum xxWatts" labels are there because that's what the wiring in the appliance for that bulb can carry. You can exceed the maximum, but it will likely cause a fire.

A few watts off might be fine, they usually over-build things, so if you get a 45W bulb for a 40W fixture it could be okay, but bluntly, are you willing to risk fire instead of just getting the right bulb?

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