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"Well, if I were him I’d want to debate me too. He’s got nothing else to do.”

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[–] [email protected] 281 points 6 months ago (17 children)

There is no upside to Biden debating him. Trump will just spout nonsense to get sound bites

[–] [email protected] 119 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Biden is like Trump's kryptonite. Trump always tries to get in the other guys head.

Can't get in Biden's head...Bidens not in there, good luck dude

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 97 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Mark Twain

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[–] [email protected] 212 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why is Trump so afraid of debating Nikki Haley first?

What a pussy he is.

[–] [email protected] 185 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget. Back in 2016, before the Conventions, Trump challenged Bernie Sanders to a debate. Bernie jumped on the idea, and Trump ran away from his own challenge.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36401179

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He knew Bernie would have DESTROYED him in a debate

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago

The worst thing for Republican voter turnout is hearing a Bernie Sanders speech. The dude shows up in a coal miner town hall and convinces them all to vote blue.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It's a shame it didn't happen...maybe, just maybe, if Bernie had trounced Trump in a debate, there wouldn't have been that whole Bernie is unelectable/would lose to Trump idea floating so strongly, and it might've given him a better chance in the primary either time.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I’ll seriously consider debating you once - no, I’m sorry: IF - you win the Republican Primary.

Can you imagine how fucking infuriating that would be to Trump?

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 6 months ago (2 children)

He should instead offer to debate Haley. That would make Trump explode.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

Oh fuck, please please please let this happen.

"Since you sat out all those Republican debates, we thought you weren't interested. Sooorry"

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 6 months ago (8 children)

He shouldn't agree to debate Trump on the grounds that he's not qualified to run for president, given that he plotted an insurrection.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

Plotted, and executed. He just didn't succeed.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

He is so transparently desperate to put Haley in the rear-view mirror.

And he's already told us what he's going to do to get out of debating with Biden: He's going to insist that none of the traditional debates be held and instead they all must be Trump campaign events hosted by his sycophants rather than independently run debates. When he doesn't get his way he's going claim Biden didn't want to debate him.

[–] cantstopthesignal 95 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

He will only debate if Tucker Carlson is the moderator and it's held in Moscow

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Biden should agree to that, and then when Trump lands in Moscow, Biden's not there. He just closes the borders and put his shades on from the White House.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The debates don't even have to be on his turf, when CNN or whoever moderates it just let's him say and do whatever

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If it weren't for the fact that this shit has real consequences, I'd suggest Biden should invite Haley to debate the president just for spite.

[–] LopensLeftArm 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Damn I would pay money to watch a live reaction from Trump on that.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No one should ever debate Trump unless the moderator has a "shut the fuck up" switch to cut off the mic. That dumbass has a diarrhea firehose for a mouth, and no self control or manners.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

I'd prefer it if all candidates had their own sound proof booth. Cut the mic and activate the window blur/block the millisecond they go over time, go off topic, deflect or just spew mouth diarrhea. And make sure it's locked, too.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And a fact checker that will interrupt blatant lies.

Trump says things that are incorrect and asserts that reality is a lie.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

it's never a debate. I've never seen one that was a debate. Trump would ignore the questions, say edgy shit and get laughs, and basically win

Biden is right to not platform an insurrectionist

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"I don't debate insurrectionists, jack"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (17 children)

Debates aren't part of the election process, they're part of the entertainment process. And if Biden doesn't agree to do the age-old Three Debate monkey dance, the Undecided Voter will grow angry and support the Fun Candidate instead.

Or, at least, that's a theory. There's another theory that debates are dumb nerd shit that nobody who hasn't already made up their minds watch anymore. And - much as a bunch of Senators and Governors have refused to debate during safe election years - Biden's refusal to meet Trump on national TV will actually make him Cool and Based.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It's not even "dumb nerd shit" these days. Current "debates" are little more than ways of generating soundbites. The moderators don't do moderation and they refuse to cut mics for those who aren't up. It's entertainment and propaganda/campaign marketing, not debating.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Oh good. We're at the "debate me, bro" phase. Love to see it. Lol

I sincerely hope Biden never takes a single debate with him, because it would be an absolute clown show, and that's exactly the kind of chaos Trump's brand thrives upon.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

The guy who refused every debate until now?

Trump would refuse debates if given a neutral moderator. And I promise if he did a single debate he’d complain it was unfair no matter the outcome.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It's not really a debate when your opponent's metrics for winning is simply to speak more loudly, more aggressively, and to refuse to shut the fuck up more intensely than anybody else in the room.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why give any more credibility to a pathetic loser fascist? He's doing just fine comparing himself to Elvis.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"I've been called a master debater by many people."

"They were calling you a masturbator you dipshit."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Honestly I would do it, then invite the secret third contestant Nimarata Nikki Haley, and let the two of them kick each other's ass, while Biden just eats popcorn in the middle (or ~~smokes crack~~ takes a dab like in the meme)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

My brother in christ, he is taking a dab not smoking crack.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

Life does not stop and start at your convenience, you miserable piece of sh*t.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay... that is a baller line.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Glad Biden didn't take the bait, all debating him at this point would do was help cement the idea that Donald Trump is THE definitive Republican candidate

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (11 children)

I'm torn. On one hand, debates should take place to show knowledge/professionalism/action plans, etc. Also, it showcases (yet again) what a fucking idiot he is. On the other hand, he hasn't done a debate so far for this presidential race, so why start now? It's been nice hearing about him slightly less.

Also....how the fuck are debates not somehow mandatory to end up in the presidential race?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

A debate would legitimize Trump. Good call.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Response is savage, if factually incorrect. Trump is defending himself against 91 felony counts.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Look at this shit:

Biden dismissed the idea.

“Well, if I were him, I’d want to debate me too,” Biden told reporters at a boba shop in Las Vegas when asked about Trump’s challenge. “He’s got nothing else to do,” Biden added.

Biden cares so little about this. Trump is like "please debate me bro" and Biden's in Vegas getting a boba tea. You can hear the sunglasses he's wearing and the smile on his face. Trump is desperate and Biden doesn't think about Trump at all.

Edit: I forgot - Trump issued his challenge on the radio to some guy named Dan Bongino. No, I don't care who he is, but I do know Trump would rather be interviewed by a blond Fox TV anchor instead of a dude on the radio.

Trump is the only guy who lost influence by becoming President. He used to be prime time news. Now he's begging for a 1 hour slot on network TV.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Biden shows up to the debate wearing his aviator glasses and leaves them on the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

let’s debate now! It’s 3am on a Tuesday! If he doesn’t show up in 5 minutes, I’m the winner!!

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