Sovereign citizen changed their gas and electricity meters, that didn't go over so well. : insanepeoplefacebook

[–] [email protected] 220 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Sovereign Citizens are crazy. Who thinks they can live in our society, use the things our taxes built, steal from companies, not follow the rules and laws our society made and just say they are special and get to do it. These people want to be leeches. How about pay your taxes, pay for products and services you use, follow the laws and join the society. We all must live together and there are rules.

[–] lurch 173 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Weird how this rant also fits super rich people, politicians, crows and babies

[–] [email protected] 100 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, fuckin freeloading babies. Crows repay kindness with shiny things though, so I'd take them off the list.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (5 children)

During the snow storm a couple weeks ago, I put a pack of walnuts and dried fruit out for the 3 crows that are always in my yard. The next day they were staring in the window at me so I put another pack out.

That afternoon around 100 crows were on my house pooping on everything. A week later my driveway and deck still have a solid covering of poop that the rain hasn't been able to wash away.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Keep feeding them and you'll have a loyal army of crows, and that's more than worth the cost of peanuts and a power washer.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're a good human. But no good deed goes in punished.

[–] Enkers 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well at least he got 7 upvotes for his troubles. It's not much, but it's something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And that's all that matters.. that orange arrow. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

This seems to fall into the no good deed shall go unpunished...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Put a dollar bill with the next pack of fruit and nuts and see if they will start bringing you cash.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It does, except rich people just pay this stuff cos it is negligible. They avoid consiquences by throwing money at their issues in the form of lawyers. (Or just money presented by lawyers).

These poor people have been conned into thinking that the law doesnt apply to them or worse still there is some super secret underground law that only the elite know. Truth is, in civil law with enough money and time there are no consequences because your oponant cant afford to keep fighting, and if they can by the time there is consiquences youve made so much you dont give a fuck.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You leave corvids out of this!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Corvids are the shit man! We're one opposable feather away from becoming the number two most dominant species on the planet.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago

This is basically the core of Republican ideology. Living off of the benefits of society while claiming to be 100% self made and then destroying the underpinning of that social fabric because it “isn’t needed”.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, you're also describing the ultra wealthy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

They are a bit different, the rich found out how to be leeches while still following the law (or making it seem like they do) whereas these guys are more like both leeching and shouting out loud that they are leeching

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On another note it's kind of nearly impossible to really at all decouple yourself from society. Even as a literal homeless person who is denied every single benefit of society you're subject to the poaching by tax agencies (I've been there. Imagine building up radio tax debt when you are literally live on the streets).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Imagine building up radio tax debt

I'm sorry, what?

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[–] JungleJim 142 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So this person thinks they found a loophole to steal gas and power, and all they have to do is an "I said so" spell, but that the people they're stealing from can't and won't just "I said so" spell right back? "How can I get these people and the cops to stop caring about my theft attempts?"

[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Special words. Yup, basically the whole principle behind the sovcit movement.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

I would argue that the real special words behind the sov cits are "I'll just need your credit card number."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

And cargo cults.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

"You're a sovereign citizen, Harry"

[–] [email protected] 126 points 11 months ago (10 children)

so now I’m thinking what is the point

congrats, you’re getting there

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like how they have a guy who changes the meters.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine what that guy is like!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rich

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

And laughing

[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (1 children)

keep the sovcits coming, those are always funny as hell

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have endless sovcit content. Endless.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

Thats both great and fucking terrifying

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like if you're gonna go this hard on being a sovereign citizen, you might as well start actually learning and practicing law

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Is the logic that at least that way they can be formally disbarred?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This person didn't learn anything from Native American vs European Settlers history.

[–] ratman150 75 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'd hate to live next to someone this deranged fucking with gas infrastructure.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

"The cavalry were not interested in anything I had to say about access to our land"

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Sounds like going Solar would actually be a smart option for this person. Not that it isn't smart for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Oh but that would cost money to install. Why do that when you can just steal and spew some nonsense about "private" property.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Some states still require you to be on the grid, and pay a connection/distribution fee, even if you are providing more energy than you're using.

When I was looking into installing solar when I lived in New Jersey, they said we weren't allowed to have a home battery system to store the solar power, either, due to the potential danger of utility workers on downed lines from unexpected loads (somebody should introduce New Jersey to the magic of diodes).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

somebody should introduce New Jersey to the magic of diodes

That's not how that works, there's not really any way to ensure one way flow with an AC system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fair enough, good point.

But there are plenty of failsafe options that could secure power from the house if no power is coming to the house.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Definitely, you can get changeover switches that will isolate you from the grid so you can run a generator etc.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Does anyone know what they're changing the meter to? That's a risky/difficult process, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This sounds very British so it is almost certainly a "smart meter" that E.ON are installing (which transmits usage data, and can be cut off or set to pre-pay remotely)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Canadian too, well at least British Columbia. There was a big drive a few years back to modernize the meters and some of what I suspect are the types that became 5G kills you groups fought long and hard to block these new meters being swapped in.

Something about radio waves and then not being accurate. I don't think these people in this group were trying to steal hydro but more on some health grounds kick to block these new devices from being deployed. I think individual home owners can refuse the new meters much like people can refuse spraying on their road side properties.

In the end as a business person I suspect they served a few purposes for real time accuracy of data collection on the status of demand and the health of the grid, and eliminating the need to send out meter readers to manually read a odometer on a old style mechanical meter.

Unlike others I don't think they were in the Bill Gates lane of trying to microchip you with vaccines to control you and identify a person as well as your cellphone does.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

About the blocking attempts reagarding accuracy; here in the Netherlands the older analog meters could only measure real power. The reasoning is that the new smart meters don't do this, but instead measure in another way, causing consumers to also pay for reactive power. In reality, this isn't true, but the urban legend is strong.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is not risky or difficult if you know what you are doing. So given the state of this guys outlook on the world, yes it is very much risky and difficult.

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