I will try to hold back too many profanities, but it's seriously FUCKED UP that anyone but this woman and her doctor know that she's pregnant, with a doomed fetus, and needs an abortion, and it's FUCKED UP that anyone gets to overrule her decision, and it's FUCKED UP that she has to flee the state during an obviously traumatic time, and it's FUCKED UP that the FUCKERS will vilify her now, hell maybe even prosecute her, and it's FUCKED UP that making a difficult time much more difficult is "good politics" in the state of Texas, which, by the way, is an utterly FUCKED UP place.
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Agreed.
I should not know her name. I should not know her intimate personal details.
She should have been able to mourn her loss in private with her loved ones. Not on the national stage as an example. She should not be at risk of prosecution because of this unfortunate situation.
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What is worse is that, as she at least has means/options (to hire a lawyer, to leave the state, etc), many woman do not.
Can I repeat that it's FUCKED UP!
It’s also pretty FUCKED UP that she was cleared for the procedure by one judge, giving her a glimmer of relief, only to have that snatched back by the Texas Supreme Court like 2 days later.
This whole situation & every lawmaker involved is proper fucked.
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These extreme right wing fanatic religious nuts, are the ones that make me doubt humanity will make it past a few generations more.
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please stop with the "Just Leave." we can't all just leave and i tire of hearing it. what limitations and obligations keep you where you are?
and if you genuinely can Just Leave wherever you are, reflect for awhile on your privilege, then try to recognize how many people do not have that option for any number of reasons.
sometimes i think this sentiment is only a little less tone-deaf than "just have a baby."
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I want any Texan to give me the moral justification for forcing a woman to give birth to a baby that will only live for a few hours in agony before dying. Because this isn't stopping what they call murder. There's no murder here even if you consider abortion to be murder in general because there will be no life for this fetus/baby/whatever you want to call it.
I want to know why this woman should be banned from having an abortion in Texas beyond 'we said no abortions and we mean it.'
“God’s will” is the typical refrain. I usually reply with “Then why are you wearing shoes? If god wanted something on your feet he would have given them to you”. Glasses are similarly blasphemy according to their poor logic.
Or why do you ever go to the doctor for anything? Shouldn't it be "God's will" if you break an arm or get pneumonia?
I remember one of the priests at my childhood (Roman Catholic) church had a great sermon about this mentality. He told the story of a woman trapped on the roof of her home after a horrible flood. A man in a rowboat finds her and attempts to lend assistance. “No need! God will save me”. Confused, he moved on. Next, a motor boat passes by, offering to help her from her roof as well. Again, “no thanks, God will save me!” Later on, a coast guard chopper arrives. The rescuer winched down onto the roof is similarly rebuked by the woman. She soon dies from exposure. When she arrives into heaven she angrily asks God why he didn’t save her to which God answers “I sent two boats and a rescue helicopter for you!”
That sermon is a joke that i heard when i was a kid prob 20 years ago or so.
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These are literally grown adults that believe in magic. There's not going to be any reasonable explanation that will make any sense to anyone outside of their cult.
She is a sinner so she must endure her divine punishment. That's the whole argument.
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They believe god may grant the fetus a reprieve at any moment. They believe in magic, ffs. What do you expect?
Couldn’t god just make the abortion not work? Maybe give the doctor a heart attack, or make Jesus appear on the sonogram like he does on toast?
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Texas woman seeks refuge from religious persecution
Married Christian woman escapes from risking sterilization for Republicans.
The headline needs to be "Republicans want married Christian woman to be sterile."
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Never vote Republican.
Republicans are regrssive on human rights.
Republicans are an existential threat to the United States.
Somehow we still treat them as if they just have a friendly difference of opinion.
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She should probably never come back to Texas. She and her family will be a target.
I imagine ole Kenny boy will get on the horn to some civilian lackies to sue Uber, Southwest airlines, the airport that the plane took off from, etc under the original vigilante law that allows such to any person who "assists" in getting an abortion.
My daughter is twenty two years old and loved growing up in Texas. I told her to never live in this shithole state because it's becoming illegal for her to exist, so she's living and working in a civilized state at the expense of my rarely getting to see her.
Colleagues think I'm overboard in this. Those colleagues have sons, not daughters, so it's still if it doesn't affect me personally, it's not important.
Fuck this place.
You're not overboard. I've spent a lot of my life in Texas. I never thought it would get worse than it was 10 years ago but here we are.
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Isn't this literally the Handmaid's Tale?
Mmerica? Yes.
I guess if my life hung in the balance and at the whim of people like Ken Paxton, I'd leave too. Too bad that Texans and doctors didn't show up for her.
The problem I can imagine is that anyone that shows support for her will also be vilified by the state and face harassment and/or legal repercussions, which is exactly the outcome these asshats want for people who stand up to them. I'm sure she has plenty of support, but people have to be willing to face major consequences to stand with her, which is beyond fucked. Fascist assholes.
Used to know people when I was a kid that marched with MLK. The conditions you described applied to them. Yet, everytime a march was called they were on the bus. It was important to them. It's not important enough for Texans.
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If I were her I would stay gone by any means necessary. Texas is not going to be here friend after this. Texas is very sad place. There are many people in Texas who hate all of this and they feel pretty helpless. The Republicans have had Texas by the balls for decades.
With something as high-profile and publicly broadcast as her series of events, she would almost certainly have to stay gone. Prosecutors will be itching to make an example out of her and anybody associated with her out-of-state trip.
She is for sure not safe in Texas at this point. I feel terrible for her. Having an unviable pregnancy is hard enough. To be fighting in court on international news is traumatizing.
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Conservatives are a plague of oppression and death. They always have been. There is a cure. It is long overdue.
Just further evidence that the best thing you can do in Texas is leave.
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