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The labor happened back in the 70s 80s and 90s when he wrote and performed the material, it's just intellectual property now
Yeah, property created by labor, not labor
Property is not labor. "I put a fence post in this ground 80 years ago so now any crops you grow here are mine" is ~~bullshit~~ dangerous reasoning that ~~only~~ usually serves to enrich the capitalist class at the expense of people doing labor.
e; now with less tilt
I'm sorry if I come across like a pedantic ass (e; and I'm sorry I got a little tilted with my last comment), but I think this is a really important distinction and each of these things needs separate rules to build the kind of society we want to live in.
It was labor when it was written and performed, and that labor should be respected and fairly compensated, but once we cross the threshold from writing and performance to recordings of those performances and copies of writings we're talking about intellectual property. I don't think you should be able to make commercial use of other people's intellectual property without their permission, but I think that's a civil lawsuit type of problem not a crime (whereas stealing someone's labor, whether through wage theft or through actual chattel slavery, should be considered a crime, imo). If we don't keep those distinctions clear, corps like Disney and EA are going to use protections we have (or should have) for people's labor to attack anyone they can claim are messing with their brands.
I've got a lot of respect for Carlin and think this project was a bad idea in bad taste and the wishes of his family members ought to be respected, but I don't want to see an emotional outrage tip us into making dumb laws.
Oh, of course, I forgot that the difference between "property" and "labor" were quantifiable objective things and not just agreed upon social consttucts that have evolved over time, how silly of me to lapse into discussing my opinions! /s
Oh well, let this be my reminder to never give a rhetorical inch when arguing on the internet
Poor thing, it's you who should have to learn something
Right, @gAlienLifeform is playing word games, not the guy who's arguing that impersonating a dead guy is equivalent to "slavery."
Follow this subthread back up to the top, that's what this is all about. Someone called this "posthumous digital slavery" and I called them out on the ridiculousness of calling it "slavery." All this quibbling about what "labor" means is part of an attempt to justify using that ludicrous term. Maybe you should pay more attention to which side of an argument you're jumping in on before arguing so vigorously for it?
I did hit reply there. I wrote the first response to the comment that called this "posthumous digital slavery." That was me up there. I've been here from the beginning.