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Biden announces proposal to replace all lead water service lines in US within 10 years
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I've long wondered if lead exposure accounts for their behaviors over the past couple decades. Lead that accumulates in the bones over one's lifetime leaches out into the bloodstream when one becomes elderly, like calcium does with osteoporosis. Cognitive issues and rage are associated with lead exposure.
Wonder no more my friend.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/01/03/how-lead-caused-americas-violent-crime-epidemic/?sh=748685b212c4
https://manhattan.institute/article/lead-and-crime-a-review-of-the-evidence-and-the-path-forward
I love when people who grew up in the 70s tell me the world is so much less safe today.
Why replace lead pipes at huge costs when you can just shoot criminals?
It turns out that more lead was the answer all along
Think about how many bullets those old pipes can be turned into! This project would practically pay for itself with the cost of ammunition these days.
That's exactly what has happened.
Imagine, if you will, a country that has a lot of land area, which uses personal ground transport to grt around. Imagine if, for decades, those personal transport machines used large, ineffcient engines that ran on a fuel that caused aerosolized lead to be blown into the atmosphere at a staggering rate?
Do not forget lead paint, pipes and crystal.
Also more recently, people who will cycle 1000 rounds of cheap ammo through sixteen different guns as a hobby and then spread that lead contamination all through their car and home, and they'll do this every week for years.
Shooting as a hobby isn't new, but the volume and frequency people are doing it has definitely gone way up in some parts of the US in the past 30 years.
I remember watching a grand thumb (gun nut YouTuber) video where he found out about the lead poisoning and started wearing an N95 mask at the range.
He switched to lead free ammo IIRC. His buddies made fun of him.
I hadn't thought of that one.
Imagine, if you will, a three by seven inch wooden frame -- a frame that's a gateway to a world of imagination. Wipe your mind on the welcome mat. You're about to enter...
The Scary Door.
That's a tiny door
It turns out it's man.
I'm not sure about that, I've had lead poisoning for thirty years and I'm still not stupid enough to support those assholes.
it's dose dependant, and while your particular neurological effects may be different, in population studies for almost every country where lead has been banned, there is a direct relationship to violent crimes as well. Lead gasoline use goes up, crime rate goes up. Lead gasoline stops, and as the lead is measured to leave the environment, the violent crime goes down.
Intelligence is only one possible thing affected. It's also highly associated with emotional impulsiveness.
Oh I'm sure. I have many of those issues, but then I also did before I was poisoned and treated for it. How much it affected me is hard to say though overall because I've got adhd and have always been impulsive.. My temper has been an issue since I was born, so I have a lot of practice suppressing it.
To me it seems there's a lot more at play including lack of critical thinking skills and not just intelligence when it comes to their support.
How did you find out you had lead poisoning?
I burned my leg by getting splashed with a bit of molten metal when I was working at a metal foundry when I was around 21 years old. My family doc tending to it ran some tests and next thing I knew I was on medication for it... some kind of horse sized pills that were nearly impossible to keep down.
Late edit: Chelation therapy I guess it's called.
People typically can see a ~3 IQ point deficit with long term lead poisoning.
I guess thankfully I had a couple to spare :)
I worry about this a little bit for myself.
I was just shy of twenty years old when leaded gas sales ended in California.
So I definitely grew up with lots of exposure. Hope it doesn't dement me out in my final couple of decades.
I worked on a community gardening project in the city when I was in grad school. We had an ordinary urban residential lot and wanted to plant a community vegetable garden.
The soil was so incredibly contaminated with lead from 70 years old leaded gasoline that we had to scrape off the top 6 ft of topsoil and send it to a toxic waste dump, and the replace all of that. Then we built raised garden beds to mitigate lead uptake in the plants.
Most cities in the world are still heavily contaminated and lead will never go away.
"We don't want any of your leftist 'woke' pipes!"
I can already hear my boomer father bitching
Came here to say this. I look forward to whatever their excuse is to not solve the toxic drinking water problem. And likely immediately spend more on DoD or cut taxes to the rich.
Dungeons or Dragons?
Department of Defense
That would be infinitely cooler and more useful.
Sadly it’s the department of defense.
Lead makes Republicans
It's funny, because the hexbears basically have the same "Biden bad" reaction. Almost like there's a weird amount of ideological overlap.
Not a hexbear, but the leftist "Biden bad" narrative wouldn't demonize investing in infrastructure, they would call out shit like unconditional support for Israel or failing to meaningfully improve social safety nets via Medicare for All, or other such measures. Biden is a Liberal, at the end of the day, and that's not going to please any leftist except by not being a fascist.
Never underestimate the effects of extremism on rational conclusions
That instance doesn’t even have a post about the proposal.
Where are you getting this from?