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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Depends. Being pleasant to Nazis, for instance, is a waste of energy.

[–] lescher 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is that famous black man Daryl Davis that converted over 200 KKK members by being nice to them and talking to them. Dont dismiss it outright

[–] Gullible 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not trying to be rude, but the sum total of all of the charm of everyone in this post’s comments wouldn’t even approach the charisma of Daryl Davis. By and large, attempting to copy Daryl Davis’s example is a terrible decision. Incredible guy.

[–] CancerMancer 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lesson here is not that you personally have the power to do this, but that it's possible at all. Many communities have something or someone they don't like collectively, but individually they will make peace. A person is smart, people are dumb.

[–] Gullible 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just really, really wanted to stress that going about it without training is a terrifying proposition that may get you killed. If I save someone from a beating borne of optimism rather than skill, it’d keep my mind at ease.

Edit: a comment because I am big dumb.

[–] goat 3 points 1 year ago

Can't reason with someone who doesn't know reason.