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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)


Nature according to people who use that argument

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I invented a fictional society for stories in which you are allowed to buy and consume meat, but only if you have a “carnivore’s medallion”. The only way to obtain one is to have witnesses observe you personally slaughter a living being (eg, a chicken) with no assistance.

Ideologically, seems like a good way to put friction on meat obsessions and get people to think about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No assistance would be no guns, no bows, no knives, no traps, right?

Literally using your bare hands or something you find on the ground.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I mean humans have always used tools but sure, you could take a chicken bare handed. Fish might be easier for a first go as I have seen a few people catch fish out of the water bare-handed after a few tries

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

Well, hunting involves the whole orange vests, ensuring legal permission, stalking an animal, etc. The idea would be if this world has hunters, any of them certified as a witness can get their colleagues a medallion without going the whole chicken route.

But obviously, most people who eat meat today don’t hunt. So they would need to go through the experience of taking life once before reaping the benefit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

90% alive today would not eat meat if they had to kill. You can grow up used to it of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I like this idea. We're raising chickens and probably rabbits this spring. If you're going to eat meat, you should face the reality of the life you are consuming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Sounds interesting.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well if the ants can do it, why can't we?

(Btw, I'm opposed to caged chicken egg cultivation, and even had my own chicken in the past before I couldn't anymore for eggs. Now I just pay the premium and researched which were the most ethical eggs in the store available. Happy hens make better eggs anyway. I'm just pointing out we're not the only ones that raise animals for consumption in nature).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Why would what ants do have relevancy to what we should do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Those ants are farming aphids. They keep them in close quarters. Ants are nature. Ergo the meme

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Everything is nature. But which closed quarters are they kept?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The ones where of the aphid strays too far from the closed in pack it becomes an instant snack (hey that rhymes).

At least we cook our chickens first (/s)

[–] prettybunnys 7 points 21 hours ago

It tracks the logic of the meme then counterpoint, this is the counterpoint to the counterpoint.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

If they went to live naked in the woods and used their apex predator canines to tear out a deer's jugular, I'm not judging.