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[–] [email protected] 34 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Bullshit. I voted against my conscience because I knew orange would harm people I love. It wasn’t enough.

Dems didn’t offer anything compelling because they are a failed party that can only drive votes with threats of even worse. It’s pretty easy to not fund a genocide and lie and say it isn’t happening when it clearly is. Dems can blame only themselves for poor turnout.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

...I voted against my conscience because I knew orange would harm people I love. It wasn’t enough.

correct! because something like ~~30~~ 90 million Americans didn't vote because they were told:

  • both sides are the same
  • nothing will change
  • two party systems don't work

what's worse is that they believed the lies! so your vote lost impact because they couldn't be bothered to vote.

Dems didn’t offer anything compelling because they are a failed party that can only drive votes with threats of even worse.

the threats didn't come from the dems. they came from the magats. and guess what...they were credible threats! I guess those ~~30~~ 90 million voters wished they had got off their fat asses and voted now.

It’s pretty easy to not fund a genocide and lie and say it isn’t happening when it clearly is. Dems can blame only themselves for poor turnout.

you make it sound easy but agreements between nations are anything but that. last time I checked both the dems and repubs were running the government..how convenient of you to forget that.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you saying?

both sides are the same

That I didn't vote because I knew trump was worse? I voted.

the threats didn’t come from the dems. they came from the magats.

"We're fighting fascism," or whatever they were saying. They didn't convince enough people to vote for them.

you make it sound easy but agreements between nations are anything but that. last time I checked both the dems and repubs were running the government…how convenient of you to forget that.

Regan called the head (premiere, president, I don't know) of Israel to tell them to calm down and the did. I'm not forgetting things. You don't know history.

Again:

agreements between nations are anything but that

Wait did I forget how he took us out of the Iran deal to limit their nuclear program?

Grow up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 minutes ago

Grow up.

What is it with you lot and ignoring your own advice?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

yeah when the choice is between horrible and double super extra horrible, it’s hard to get really motivated to vote for horrible….

it’s pretty much the genocide version of the trolly problem. palestine genocide is on one track, on the other track, there’s the palestinian genocide, trans genocide, hispanic genocide, and entire planet ecocide…

the choice is obvious but not particularly inspiring… at least under harris there was some hope of lobbying her to stop… protest at the whitehouse now and trump will try to have you shot… hopefully they refuse next time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The bigger problem was that when you brought up domestic genocides before the election, it got handwaved away as you not caring about Palestinians and also dismissed as not going to happen. I saw this over and over on Lemmy, along with the ludicrous idea that once a genocide has started, it literally can't get worse because genocide is genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

yeah i swear lemmy was getting astroturfed with the “genocide joe” spam

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

No need to astroturf when there are a huge number of self-righteous people who think the only cause that matters is their cause.

I do have to wonder how many of the people who earnestly bought the whole "a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide" people ever talked to a Palestinian in their lives, let alone asked them what they thought of that idea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

... you know that's really an apt comparison. Never thought about it that way but really it's like a trolley problem except it is their job to shout for people to come up and pull the lever.

It's no surprise they had trouble finding volunteers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, I voted blue, but I knew this was going to happen regardless of who won.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

That’s why politics for ordinary people needs to go way beyond voting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

At least with the blue team they're less likely to bend to protests...red team will just send the boots to step directly on you.