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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 week ago (9 children)

People really dont understand how languages work. Even brother and man can be gender neutral. If you say "man, whyd you do that" thats gender neutral. Same with dude and guy.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a man but I love when people call me babygirl or something like that

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yo, something like that, send nudes

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Niiiiice. This is like porn in the 00s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

don't body shame me :'//

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this the latest iteration of “tits or GTFO”? I haven’t been keeping up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It was a dad joke and you missed it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk about the rest of it but dude and guys can totally be gender neutral and i hate people that dont get that. Its such a bitchy thing to get mad about

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Also queen, "James, you're such an Excel queen". I've seen this sort of use many times at my workplace. It doesn't have anything to do with gender or sexual orientation.

It's obviously more niche than "dude" but I've seen it before.

[–] Ookami38 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This. I've got a fair few trans friends, and we're all in agreement - unless it's obvious we're talking in gendered terms based on context, "dude", "man", "bro", etc are just interjections, not reference to someone's gender. And, when we are talking in gendered contexts, we tend to be pretty clear about that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It's really great that you have friends who are in a good enough place to not worry about that stuff.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

And pussy, right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But like.......I think it goes beyond just gender specificity & is also an attempt to address the embedded patriarchy of our culture & language. Those interjection words being male of center as a default is something I wanna unpack, too.🤷🏽

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

As another comment said "queen" being gender neutral and coming from a word used for females originally. Also patriarchy is embedded in language but you cant really change it. Its always better to agree on a gender neutral phrase than have an infight(classic left wing moment...) and then revert to the previous gendered language because of it. We should all just speak hungarian, barely any gendered stuff in there(def not biased because its my mother tounge)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then let's also start using sis and girl when referring to men. BOOM EQUALITY!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Lol Elon Musk would probably start banning all users who did this on Twitter if it gained any traction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yes! Thank you for stating this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Human ... man, it's a just shorter version 😉

[–] brotundspiele 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

No, the etymology is actually completely distinct from the gendered usage of “man.” It’s actually quite interesting.

https://www.etymologynerd.com/blog/man-vs-woman

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

gay men call each other sis and girl all the time too, for alternatives that go in reverse

[–] Jumuta 3 points 1 week ago

me@lemmy~$ man

[–] brbposting -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thats a joke right? Because youre getting downvoted, but you yourself called me bro without knowing my gender so it must be a joke or youre the most oblivious person ive ever seen.

[–] brbposting 8 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope they're joking, otherwise they need to get back to Facebook with the rest of their ilk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would be a classic facebook moment. Gender neutral guy is like singular they/them. "That is not natural bla bla bla, use he/she" and then you ask them "do you know who alex is" and they respond "no, i dont know who they are" which is using singular they or just assume their gender.