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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


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Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

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You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.


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[–] loaf 46 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I finally just blocked the entire instance. A lot of those folks aren’t exactly… right.

The hardcore tankies as just as bad as holocaust deniers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure most of them are holocaust deniers, just not the Holocaust you're thinking of.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Tankies and fascists have more in common with each other, and feudalists, than they do with workers/socialists. I'm convinced the horseshoe theory is just narcissism presenting across the political spectrum.

Only a fucking narcissist could believe authoritarianism, control, and subjugation are desirable. That's why its delusions of grandeur and megalomania all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Authoritarians gonna auth. Why particular holy book they wave around, the Bible, das Kapital, mein Kampf or whatever they have in North Korea is merely incidental.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I’d say the equivalent in Nork is probably On the Juche Idea

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just got majorly downvoted on works for asking why free speech is a bad thing and the only response was a snarky comment saying I’m from 300 years ago.

I’m about to delete my account after being on here for a year and a half because most popular Lemmy instances are just turning into the worst parts of twitter exiles.

[–] imaqtpie 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Don't be childish, you must know that going against the circlejerk/hivemind is a guaranteed downvote brigade on any social media site. But depending on the thread/community/server/phase of the moon, the hivemind can believe completely contradictory things.

You just have to read the room, and if you're going against the general mood in the thread, you have to put in extra effort to get your point across. And sometimes you just wear the downvotes like a badge of honor, because it means you're not a sheep.

[–] Zeppo 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That was my experience in topical sections of reddit. Often the first few comments determined how the entire post would go, and you could get completely different results saying the same thing on different days. Same with replies I guess.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Different time of day and week in smaller communities can contribute as well to pretty big shifts in response.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I guess because Lemmy is getting so many more active users after twitter and Reddit fallouts that some of the qualities that it used to have regarding are being drown out.

[–] imaqtpie 4 points 18 hours ago

It's not though. Lemmy active userbase hasn't grown at all in over a year. We need all the users we can get.

https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean sh.itjust.works when you say works?

[–] imaqtpie 4 points 1 day ago

It was on [email protected], you can see the comment on their profile

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tankies are just fashists who are exploiting the glitch that makes the ideology behind the largest mass murders in history more socially acceptable in the west.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same. I really wanted to be around other leftists but holy fuck the vast majority of them need serious help.

[–] loaf 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My first account was on .ml, and it took me about half an hour to get completely jumped by a bunch of Stalinists. Ended up deleting my account, and was hesitant to create a new one.

Thankfully, it seems to be two instances, and I’ve blocked them both. My experience after that has been great.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Three instances. ML, Lemmygrad, and Hexbear

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't seen the actual Lemmygrad in my feed in a year, even on this sub.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Lemmygrab gets defederated a lot, your instance admin probably decided they aren't worth it and blocked them entirely.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait, is ml supposed to be left leaning? 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's kinda the definition of tankies no? Being so pro Soviet/china that you become what you were supposed to hate, an imperialist

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Being in favour of authoritarian regimes does not make one a leftist

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

No, but why do you reply that to my message? Seems wholly irrelevant

Why is online discourse so cancerous. Idiot above me puts words in my mouth and gets upvoted and I got downvoted. I never called them leftists, learn to fucking read.

[–] imaqtpie 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They leaned so far to the left they ended up doing a headstand

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How do you do that? I've reached my limit.

[–] loaf 3 points 10 hours ago

I’m using Arctic for iOS, and it has an option to block an instance.

(Sorry, I’m late responding 🤦🏻‍♂️)

[–] iAmTheTot 4 points 15 hours ago

I think it depends on your instance and/or app you're using.