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[–] [email protected] 89 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (6 children)

There are some, handheld firearms that are used as a last-ditch / cheap anti drone solution in Ukraine, by both sides.

Drum roll.....

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2024/analysis-shotguns-emerge-as-a-frontline-defense-against-drones-in-evolving-military-and-security-tactics

Its shotguns.

Because they have a spread of multiple shot pellets instead of a single bullet.

Fucking obviously duh, they've been used to hunt small, evasive birds routinely, everywhere, for like 150+ years.

Hunting a nimble flying object with a sniper rifle is a laughably absurd idea.

This actual post from this woman is so stupid I would have thought it was from a 12 year old whose only experience with guns is from CoD... but nope, its a 50ish(?) year old woman.

Guess she's never hunted birds, and thinks its just the same as hunting deer or hogs or something???

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Old people can be stupid too :-)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Also, people seem to be forgetting that shotguns don't only shoot shot or slugs:

https://www.lesslethal.com/products/12-gauge/als12skymi-5-detail

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I did not know an actual anti drone, net round existed!

Not especially useful against drones, nor open warfare, there are also less than lethal rubber rounds...

... and a self contained taser round:

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/taser-x12-xrep-a-taser-in-a-shotgun-shell/

I don't know if the xrep is still actually manufactured though.

Oh right! Dragon's breath! Illegal in half the country!

https://www.firequest.com/G12-113.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

People have been basically homebrewing shot gun shells since shotguns have existed. Everything from flachetes, to bolos, to XREP - even idiots that have shoved a shell full of .17 hmr rounds to see what happens. I 100% know that homebrewed anti drone shells exist and range from tying fishing line around pellets, to just launching a rope.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Shotguns just can’t stop winning

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

"winning" and my dumb brain..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

I heard that guy's a real crack shot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago

Not gonna lie, if she can take a drone out with that I'd be pretty impressed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ive heard and seen some images and videos of soliders building their own antidrone ammo. They rip the tip off the casing and heat shrink a coulple of bbs together and crimp them to the casing. I'm not certain how legitimate or effective it is but I've seen several videos and images of it. They recomend staggering the homemade rounds with tracer rounds to help with aiming.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

Hah, I suppose that could work!

Reminds me of ratshot .22 rounds.

Maybe somebody will start properly manufacturing basically ratshot 5.56 rounds.