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Woah buddy! One more step and you're gonna be dangerously close to anti-vaxxer territory. Trust the science heckin' friendo
This isn't about not trusting the science, this is about those doctors who either haven't kept up with their research, or haven't got the sense to be subtle when they need to double check something.
I've got a rare disease, and I've seen way too many of these doctors. The bright side is that they make the good doctors look even better 👍
Or maybe it's about how people are so full of themselves that they believe people should know everything about you before ever meeting you.
Maybe stop being so judgemental when someone has to learn about something before treating you. You'd rather they pretend they're all knowing and treat you when in reality they don't know shit?
No one person knows everything. That expectation will only lead you to disappointment.
Are you serious? The post is about doctors who don't know their jobs.
I even said in my comment that they might have to double check things, but often don't have the sense to be subtle about it.
I'm not expecting to walk up to a stranger in the street and have them know the details of my illness, I'm talking about a trained professional who is about to give me advice or medication that could kill me if they get it wrong. They should at least know the basics, and certainly shouldn't just sit there with a blank look on their face.
Read my other comments on this post. I've had a GP as my wife what to do because he hadn't kept up with his work, while my dentists knew about my illness and made sure that they were taking any precautions that they needed to.
Aren't MDs required to take a set amount of CME hours every year as a prerequisite to holding a license to practice?
(Yes, they are)
But if your googling yields better results, I advise you to stop seeing your GP. it's all a scam anyway right?
You've missed the point here. There are a lot of us with chronic illnesses who have been to see a doctor, and the doctor has used Google to look up our illness. These doctors don't seem to be keeping up to date with their research, and don't exactly fill us with confidence when they openly demonstrate their lack of knowledge.
The majority of us believe in the science, and a lot of us keep ourselves up to date as much as we can, so seeing doctors who don't even know the basics is infuriating.
If you'd taken the time to read either of my other replies on this post, you would have seen my example of the GP who asked my wife what to do.
There are a hell of a lot of good doctors out there, who know about our illnesses or even admit that they need to refresh their knowledge, but there are also way too many doctors who openly Google it and don't even pretend to know. They are the ones we complain about.
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This meme is about when you’ve read the scientific literature surrounding your illness but your GP hasn’t. Of course, it is not the GP’s fault as they can’t know about every illness, but rather a problem with how our healthcare system makes GP’s instead of specialists survey chronic illnesz.
That's their job, essentially they are the front door to the world of medicine, and a lot of their work revolves around connecting you with someone who can help.
A good GP, when presented with symptoms and evidence of something they don't know much about, will say, "Huh. Let me have a look at some stuff", and then they will go check things out.
If things match up then they will likely say, "Ok, let's try X" , or alternatively, "I know someone who is better suited to deal with this", and hand you off. They might say, "Perhaps it's this other thing", which might piss off some long term sufferers of particular illnesses, but I'd prefer a no stone unturned approach to things than blanket dismissal.
GPs are not science, they are people. People make mistakes. They also have varying levels of education, mental health issues, personal problems, general human stuff.
That's the point.
Ok, take whatever issues GP’s have and extrapolate it to the average American by first multiplying by a million because the average American is a fucking idiot.
And a lot of doctors are too.