Capital 'N' is written differently; 'U' and 'u' are unambiguous.
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But what about T-junction/t-junction?
Good point. I'm calling it coffee junction from now on.
There's already a road sign resembling a capital 'N', but there isn't an equivalent possible confusion for T/t.
Or on different fonts the T and I is indistinguishable
I think you mean tndtsitngutshable
yeah
Because ultimately, U are the one who must make the turn.
I'd kinda feel uncomfortable calling it an "n-turn".
Sounds kinda racist, honestly
Just call it an intersection turn and use ∩
It's Unicode U+2229. So I guess we all can formally agree to call it U+2229 turn ? Or in short U turn ? No ?
How do you pronounce it though? 🤔
"backslash cap" :P
"intersection"
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To make an n-turn, you’d need to star from the other side of the street, drive forward, and then back up while steering around the bend.
When creating traffic laws and regulations, this was deemed too dangerous, so they went with “u”.
(You should have seen the options when they were using a serif font…)
In China they call them biang biang turns.
Biang a U-ey is something we have here too.
I’ll Xiè myself out
U u
N n
Capitalization, I guess. "u-turn" and "U-turn" boil down to the same movement, while "n-turn" and "N-turn" don't work so well together.
An N turn is presumably parallel parking
Does it count as a turn if you remain pointed in the same direction?
I feel like it has to, otherwise turning 360 degrees isn't a turn
🤯
Think it just depends on what perspective the spectator takes.
Maybe it was named by someone watching it from the other side of the road, and not the one doing it?
I think it's based on two things: where you are and how the letters start when written.
When writing letters n and U, both are started at their leftmost position (for most people) and their topmost position (for most people).
In the UK, or other places where you drive on the left, a u-turn would make a little n. While you aren't starting the turn from the topmost position of the letter, you are starting on the left of the letter.
In the US and other countries where you drive on the right, you make a U-turn because viewed from above you are making a U that starts from the top and left of the letter. While from your immediate perspective while driving your making a lowercase n but starting from the right, from above it's the classic U movement that occurs.
Just a guess though.
Why would it be an n-turn? The n shape suggests you back up before turning. The capital U asserts that you simply turn. That's how I've always done it.
For any mathematician a n-turn would be a turn segmented into n directional changes. /s
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How come there isn't a dedicated u turn blinker?
@Funkymatt You want something that tells people that doing a U-Turn is a normal thing to do with a car?
U-turns are expected behavior when the road has a middle divider. There will often be dedicated U-turn lanes to accommodate that, too.
My wife is a firm believer that not using a signal in a left turn lane universally means you're u-turning.
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An n turn would have to be a U-turn with other vehicles entering. Add any more entrances and you'd have a roundabout.
because it was originally called a You-Turn, because driving instructors said "Now you turn", and people heard it as "Now you-turn", and then abbreviated it as "u-turn"
As humans we are biased towards action and forward thinking. From the perspective of where you are heading after completing the turn, it was a U shaped turn
Also, technical drawings?
Maybe it's an US thing?
I guess it's because the U is drawn in 1 fluent motion, a u and an n have the extra line, compared to the U.
My U has the same extra line, just on the right.
*A US thing, by the way, as U begins with /j/ (the 'y' sound in you).
In most fonts the uppercase U has no extra line, most don't write one in upper case as well when handwriting.
Must be thought off in the US, as they have space on the road for U turns though. Most other countries are stuck with 3 point turns. (Or in my case, a lot more, my car has a turningcircle of a battleship)
This is why I say I'm gonna "flip a bitch" instead of "make a U turn/make a U-y"
To deepen that: does a U-turn become a n turn when you have to reverse briefly because the curve was too small and thus give your path a little uptick? n
Maybe it depends on your vehicle? I definitely do more U than "n" turns
I believe OPs point has to do with the direction. From a top-down perspective driving forwards would look like driving upwards, then turning and driving downwards, like an n. U flipped/rotated 180 degrees.
Ahh that makes more sense. I was thinking about the nub of the "n" being included as part of the motion
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Vehicles vary greatly in turn radius, and it's not just size. I've had big vehicles that could do a U turn just about anywhere, but that damn Saturn...how could a small sedan be so bad at tight turns?
Because it doesn’t need any experience or training.
We call them shithooks.
We call them shithooks.
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