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If the Marvel universe was a cow, Hollywood would've milked the cunt inside out by now

I'm actually excited to see this one. Kamala is a fun character and Iman Vellani captured her essence really well. They have not done a good job of making Captain Marvel or Monica Rambeau as characters we care about, but through the Kamala lens we might during the movie. But a lot of folks skipped on Ms. Marvel thinking she was for kids.

However, I wouldn't even call this dip in presales Marvel fatigue. I'm a Marvel fanboy. I watched She Hulk and enjoyed it. Yet, Marvel have done nothing to actually invest me into the current phase. It's not a Marvel fatigue but more a multiverse/plot fatigue. I haven't watched Secret Invasion or Loki 2 because... Why?

I find Kang to be such a damp squib of a character. They ruined most of his mystique at the end of Quantumania to the extent he is no longer a real threat. Thanos worked because he was a difficult but not impossible threat. You felt like even the Guardians had a chance against him as slim a chance as that might be.

Kang is an impossible threat. A multi-versal threat that has no limits. He's boring because he can't be overcome.

I've said it before when we were all on Reddit, this Phase would be made significantly more interesting if you use this as the opportunity to introduce Doctor Doom. Have him crush Kang as a threat setting up a more complex, potentially beatable, villain and establishing a power order in one sweep.

Once he's established, bring in the X-Men and FF fighting off incursions, lead up to X-Men Vs MCU as your Summer Blockbuster, have a handful of arthouse y Last Days Of style movies. Go into Battleworld, have some really fun remixes of our established characters, reset the multiverse to a single world with more mundane threats and recast any character who wants out of the franchise.

Instead, this movie becomes a 'eh. I'll see it on Disney+ eventually'.

Marvel made this bed when they did End Game 2. Not that End Game 2 is a bad movie in isolation, just that some of the choices of that film really fucked up long term story telling. When you start doing multi verse or timey wimey bullshit to get out of killing characters you remove any consequences or value from killing off characters. Once you remove the permanence from doing so, and its particularly clear that after the shake out it was done to write out two of the more expensive actors who both feuded over money, you remove it from all other character deaths, as you can no longer trust that they will not just bring somebody back at a later point. Never kill off a character you do not want permanently dead, it just removes any danger that character faces.

This is a big part of the problem with Kang, we know he will not die despite any deaths on the road to the end of the big Avengers pay off, kind of makes his whole build up a bit pointless, unless they going to have him start permanently killing people on his way, which I am really unsure that will happen. Then the other big problem with Kang is his casting as Majors is just proven to be trouble on and off set, at least he hasn't gone full Ezra yet.

Marvels biggest problem is Captain Marvel just lacks any character, shes too focused on being the invincible Superman but without anywhere near enough Clarke Kent to ground that character for audiences. Its left Brie Larson hardly any space to engage the audience. Sure, we all want the huge super strong pay off scene such as when Thor came for Thanos in Wakanda as that was awesome, but it only meant something because we had already engaged with Thor in his more vulnerable moments, and he had real suffering on his way to his climatic appearance. Making characters too strong just ends up making them unlikable.

Couple this with lazy and often just plain bad writing, terrible CGI, and an over reliance on MacGuffins to dig out of self made holes created to impose any sort of peril, and its no wonder Marvel is struggling..

Never would have thought that oversaturating the market with what felt like an endless stream of marvel movies would have a negative impact....

Disney spent $4 billion for Marvel back in 2009. They've made far more than that back already, and I'd argue the superhero / comic movie space is now ridiculously saturated.

Personally I hope this just leads to more varied projects instead of executives resting on a single IP until the end of time (and yes, all Marvel stuff is one big IP).

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Good, maybe the theater won't be too crowded when I go this weekend 😊

Marvel has had a lot of bad drops recently.

Black Panther 2 Doctor Strange 2 Black Widow Ms Marvel SheHulk Marvel What If?

These all have really been pretty bad.

Honestly, I'm in the position to say that the Fantastic Four is fucking cursed.

Nothing can make the Fantastic Four be good in a movie, short of a blood sacrifice.

Literally had some of the most popular Marvel Franchises condensed into one Movie, and some how, Doctor Strange 2 absolutely butchered all of them.

Not to mention that the proposed villain of Doctor Strange 2 from the original Doctor Strange post-credits scene was dealt with Off-Screen.

It's absolutely soul crushing to see it come to this. But atleast, it would appear, someone other than Disney has a chance in the Cinema Market right now.