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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was going to summon you but of course you're already on top of it. I swear you're like 1/2 of all posts and comments

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm always around. Watching. Waiting.

[–] superfes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Every breath you take And every move you make Every bond you break Every step you take I'll be watching you -- The Picard Maneuver probably

[–] Yen@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'm starting to consider watching it because it's about half of what I see here lol

Edit : I am enjoying TOS so far, not very far in though.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ONE OF US

ONE OF US

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

If you do decide to take the plunge, much of trek has been remastered, TNG (the series that came after Shatner’s Kirk in the Original Series) for example was redone and got a Blu-ray release.

Unfortunately this hasn’t been done for others like Deep Space Nine and Voyager, which came after TNG’s run. So the community stepped in to fill this need.

I’ve gone thru many AI remasters and they have gotten better and better. Utr/Joybell used to be the best for DS9 until somewhat recently, but they have all been a little rough around the edges.

Enter DS9, Redefined; this project in my opinion is many steps above in terms of quality. The person running that project has finished a remaster for all of DS9 and is currently working on Voyager (almost done with s1 I think). If you click that link, you can check out some of the footage and screenshots they provide (shown with a slider so you can easily compare source with remake)

Join their discord, and go to the #instructions channel, there is an ftp server for all completed episodes; you don’t need to run the workflows yourself on the source eps yourself

Enjoy old trek in a more clear and vibrant experience, the first time :)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately this hasn’t been done for others like Deep Space Nine and Voyager, which came after TNG’s run.

The reason for that, by the way, is that while TNG was shot on film (from which more detail could be extracted using new technology), DS9 and Voyager were at least partially mastered directly on videotape (especially the CGI effects) and thus there was no higher-quality source to pull from to begin with.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh wow! Nice to learn the actual reason why. Directly in vhs my god lol

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, there's a real doughnut-hole in the '90s-2000s between when stuff was old enough to be remastered and stuff was new enough to be digital/HD to begin with. Also, I double-checked, and according to this article what I wrote before wasn't entirely accurate: apparently the raw footage is on film, but the cut and edited product only exists on video. In theory, they could go back to the raw film and re-do the entire editing process, but it would be cost-prohibitive compared to how much consumer interest in an HD remaster they expect there to be.

There's a really good Technology Connections video on the topic, by the way.

Finally, I'm not sure if "VHS" is strictly accurate. There are other varieties of videotape that might have been used.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah no way they would eat that kind of cost for not much value overall. The fans would love it but no way they make their money back.

Thanks for the neat info tho!

[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] Metz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Have you compared it to other upscales? there is a 720p from icecracked that looks excellent and to my knowledge even beats redefined by a noticeable margin.

[–] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That looks pretty good at first. I am a huge DS9 fan. But upon closer examination with those sliders, it looks like it's just brighter. That's it. Am I wrong?

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It does look minimal and honestly the source files weren’t that bad. It’s just an attempt to upscale the image so it looks better on bigger screens. If you look at previous AI up scales and such there are lots of artifacts and things like that and this project is the cleanest I’d seen, but also things like stars and other small details are more clear or newly visible also

I like to watch trek on my big tv and the original source files are frustrating in that regard, so for you it may not be the same value and doesn’t make sense to replace an existing collection but for newer watchers may as well start at an improved version

But bottom line, it is more than that. Here is the workflow to see exactly what is being done: https://discord.com/channels/774116592409378816/774119166931894272/1066138918128468060

[–] Yen@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Aye much appreciated, will look at it later when I got some free time.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this!!!

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You absolutely should, it's a glorious bottomless rabbithole.

It's a fun series! The fandom has been going strong for nearly 60 years at this point.

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kevin happy

You've made Kevin happy

[–] Tehgingey@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You guys are why I started watching the Orville, bless your souls!

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Orville is amazing, especially the third season!

[–] Tehgingey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I'm halfway through the second, and wow am I enjoying it. Some episodes have super profound plots, and other episodes are super heavy. I love Seth McFarlane's humor too so it's a really enjoyable watch for me.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Honestly though, so grateful for the content they contribute

[–] TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] icepuncher69 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly yes, even if im not into it and thend to ignore those posts i still feel good at the fact that they are having fun and are active on lemmy.

However it would be nice if we could get more fandoms into lemmy, since it has become easyer to use, but i would argue it is still a hard sell due to the fame lemmy its been getting as a tankie shithole even if those are just some instances and not the whole platform.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Part of the reason I started posting a lot was because I wanted there to be more content for people like me, who just want to enjoy some of their favorite fandoms/interests and chuckle at memes without feeling like they're drowning in aggressive political takes everywhere.

Star Trek is one of my favorite things, and I love the community that has gotten going here.

[–] icepuncher69 4 points 1 year ago

And that its very noble in and of itself

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It wouldn't be a tankie shithole if it started being filled with non-tankies. πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

The Monkeys Paw curls a finger and sends a mass of regular ol' Nazis to join up

[–] icepuncher69 1 points 1 year ago

Sex with hitler 3 featuring stalin

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

One must imagine the Star Trek community happy

[–] antik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Good to have them ❀️

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Come on, man. If you're going to use inclined rocks and talk about Star Trek, at least use the right inclined rocks...

[–] howsetheraven@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Aah, you were at my side all along. My true mentor... My guiding moonlight...