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Where are they supposed to go to be safe?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nobody should be attacked based on the religion, or their ethnicity. Holding an airplane of random people responsible for the actions of a country is terrible, and it's a emotional response.

I guess when your country is committed to a terrible action (Ukraine), you're looking for any scapegoat to make you feel better about yourself.

Russia has a huge security problem if they can't maintain airport sterile zones, on the other hand a bunch of people have just demonstrated their willing to fight, enabled bodied, so that should help their local recruitment efforts for the war...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Agree, this is getting out of hand. It's complicated but world leaders should stop using and dividing civilians like this.

Just acknowledge that Hamas is bad, the Israeli response is bad and that civilians on both sides are paying the price.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The amount of people I've seen encouraging this attack in lemmy just makes me sad. Not surprised, but still sad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I haven't seen anyone encouraging this attack.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Let me guess, lemmygrad, hexbear or kbin?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Hexbear has been blocked by lemmy.world for ages, and I've additionally blocked lemmygrad. Still plenty of people beyond those.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] andrew_bidlaw 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where are they supposed to go to be safe?

Dagestan is likely the last place they want to visit now.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The clue is in the name: ‘…stan’.

Name a single ‘stan’ country which is not a backwards, inbred shithole.

Sadly.

[–] andrew_bidlaw 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Kazakhstan is authoritarian but pretty chill (thanks to their de-facto acceptance of weed?), I'd put it higher than Russia and Belarus in terms of everyday quality of life, especially now. Tatarstan (republic in Russia) is one of better places there, I was surprised by how safe and clean small towns look, felt like local politicians don't steal as much as others do.

Problem is not religion alone. Problem is Mahachkala's heads are pretty happy the way it is, and they keep their grip steady by also using religion. It's a region that famously got into news after it was discovered they use fucking slave labor on their brick factories, kidnapped men. They did so because of islam, or rather because they do whatever they want to exploit people and get away with it as long as they are friends with key people and do what they need? Where this anti-social behavior is rarely prosecuted?

Honestly, I'd like to see how republics of Caucasus may turn out if not for their long-living power culture that got them stuck with the same people and politics. Take Georgia or Armenia. With that climate and geography they are well-set as a tourist destination.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I love a broad brush, myself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So Russian need a special militiary operation to de-nazify themselves now?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

A lot of people don't realise that many parts of central Russia are predominantly Muslim

I hear they're a tad intolerant sometimes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why is it only up to Russia to de-nazify everyone? They did it for Ukraine, the least they could do is return the favour.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah, let's help them out!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

"The riots appear to have been inspired by a number of posts on the social media platform Telegram"

Soooo let me guess... there weren't even any actual flights from Israel?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In the past day, local people have besieged a hotel in search of Jewish guests and stormed the airport after reports emerged that a flight from Tel Aviv was arriving in the city.

Video posted to social media showed hundreds of young men, some carrying Palestinian flags or placards denouncing Israel, storming on to the tarmac of the Makhachkala international airport and climbing on to idling planes, attempting to break through the windows.

The riots appear to have been inspired by a number of posts on the social media platform Telegram, where followers were told that a flight from Tel Aviv would be arriving that evening with refugees from Israel.

Some of the signs held by the rioters read, “We are against Jewish refugees” and “child-killers have no place in Dagestan.” Police stood by as hundreds of protesters surged into the airport’s main terminal, entering restricted areas and demanding that customs officials direct them toward the arriving passengers.

Followers of Utro Dagestan, one of the Telegram accounts that regularly carries news mixed with conspiracy theories, were told to besiege the local airport, interrogate arriving passengers and demand that they denounce the Israeli government.

Khabib Nurmagomedov, a former mixed-martial arts champion and possibly the most famous figure in Dagestan, posted to more than 35 million followers on Instagram earlier this month that Israel was engaged in “genocide” in Gaza.


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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Not Russia, obviously (or perhaps not obviously)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I find in kinda funny, in the darkest way, that Israel has done so much damage to the publics' perception of Jewish folks, at least based on news like this.

Also, that Israel seems to be taking plays out if Hitler's book when it comes to damaging and othering their neighbors over petty shit.

Fascism cropping up in a conservative ethnostate? You don't say. Insert shocked pikachu meme here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

theres nothing funny about it, its horrifying and exactly what israel wanted to happen

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

The sole reason why Israel exists is because this kind of public perception was there for centuries...