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[–] [email protected] 380 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m glad to be totally off of Reddit now but I have to say, props to the mods doing this kind of stuff. It’s pretty hilarious

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They're getting no end of grief from bad/paid actors though.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The amount of whinging and bootlicking from people taking Spez's side was insane before I left for good.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It doesn’t seem organic. Protest posts would get 95% upvotes, then suddenly 12 hours later get slammed with bootlickers and downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit felt really astroturfed for years now. Start mentioning Neill Druckman in any capacity and your post immediately got flooded with copy paste hate centered on TLoU2. It seemed organic at the time, but when the TV series came out it was very sus, as if somebody had forgotten to turn off their bot army.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I've talked to a few that seemed organic, but those were basically people who wanted Reddit to get back to normal and not waste time on bullshit that didn't affect them personally.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

i did check in a few communities that i was engaging with before, and honestly, it seemed organic, but it was always lurkers/semi-lurkers who don't post and only comment like once every two months. accounts for the delay as well, because they don't check reddit that often (before everything went to shit posts would usually be gathering views for a good 24 hours)

but reddit also started using chatgpt to prop itself up lately (which afaik is against chatgpt's tos, so that's nice for the future lawsuit if they wanna cash in), so idk. that does put a damper on their legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it proven that majority of the positive spez posts are from bots or chatgpt or something?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

At least one post was defending reddit in r/programming has been shown to be chatGPT, that's for sure. If they have one bot, who's to say they don't have thousands?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just described Reddit in general

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No doubt, but they've really ramped up lately. It's like all the manchildren from t_D suddenly saw their chance to be assholes again without consequence.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The un-moderated right wing shit has been very pronounced on Reddit the last few weeks.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This is how the playbook for Fascism works.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, before the 1st I was getting mass harassed by what were clearly new accounts for pointing out the responders were clearly copying/pasting from a script.

But once that was pointed out, only 12 year old accounts with little posting history showed up lol, which seemed bizarre.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope they don't bend to them. Reddit fully deserves this level of overt trolling at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 202 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I honestly expected after the API changes rolled out that the backlash on Reddit would stop but I'm glad to see the shenanigans continue.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Same, as much as I hope lemmy succeeds, I simultaneously hope that the API changes get reversed. Good job to those fighting for this over there

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

I am afraid the two might be mutually exclusive. Lemmy is like old Reddit and still on early adopters. We get more and more newcomers only because Reddit is going downhill.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Though it's not like it matters to most of us if they do reverse course. I already deleted everything on my Reddit account. It's all gone permanently.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I believe the failed Twitter-to-Mastodon exodus made spez and his yesmen cocky. I hope they underestimated how much more tech savvy the average redditor is - especially the nexus poster, who keep the community afloat.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

No, I figured this would go on a lot longer than just the blackout. There has been a lot of built up resentment in the mod community that the admins never really addressed. Now that the admins ripped away most mod tools, a lot of mods are pissed.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As much as I'd love to log into Reddit and see this go down, I'm happy just not using Reddit. How much longer do you think they'll hold out?

[–] Blaze 82 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Do not underestimate average people's resilience to enshittification

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just saw someone on one of my fb groups saying she's heard a lot about reddit lately and wanting to make an account and asking how it works.

I tried to ward her off but the negative press just seems to be enticing new users.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

My guess ist that if she still is on fb in 2023 she might actually love it on Reddit now and in the future...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

That’s fine, they’re the people we don’t want over here. They’re part of Reddits problem.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Things will climax once sync for reddit releases their Lemmy app in 2-4 weeks

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The apps are going to be a game changer. If they can make it easier and intuitive to sign up, manage your accounts, find communities, and eventually group communities together and filter your feed, casual users will start flocking. It’s all about the UX and UI.

I hope to see the apps even accept donations and distribute part of it to the Lemmy devs and server hosts to help keep things sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

As an Apollo user, switched to wefwef and suddenly its like Reddit 10 years ago. Lots of interesting and weird content with great UX.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're talking about the 0.1 of the 1/9/90 rule resisting the clearly telegraphed decay of the platform they poured 5-15 years into on average. they built that place, do not underestimate the lengths they will go to keep it up.

assuming one more round of further threats, my prediction is that about half the currently protesting communities will either switch to a new form of protest, stop, or be made an example of, by about the end of july. but for a proper "end" of the protests, spez would be lucky if it happened by the end of the summer, and their negative impact on the platform is already severe and permanent. i honestly don't know if the admins are stupid and/or out of touch enough to not notice the drop in content quality or are just bold enough to lie about it, but this spells the beginning of a long and inevitable process of people leaving to better sites as those who gave reddit its unique value stop contributing and giving lurkers a reason to stay.

reddit will never feel the same again, but it will feel about the best it ever will again around the end of the year, before the decay truly sets in. unless the admins choose that time for the next round of killing off old reddit, of course.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol without an app on my phone, I tried opening r/pics on my mobile browser to see the damage, only to be met with a "you must view NSFW communities in our app" page.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t wait for the Reddit IPO to fail

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fidelity has been dropping the valuation of its stake in reddit, and that's only as of May 31st. We don't know yet how the value will respond to all this drama, but I suspect it will go down more.

The IPO might not fail, but they probably won't get what they wanted out of it.

Unfortunately this probably means that the platform will sell to people who expect to get use out of it for direct public influence of some kind (marketing/politics).

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I wish more of the larger subs were still protesting and didn't roll over so easily. But regardless the site has taken a massive hit to its reputation and one can only hope that recovery won't be possible moving forward and it screws them out of their chance to go public.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think most of the larger ones were forced to reopen by the admins

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Admin was kicking mods that didn't approve. Absolutely forced to reopen.

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[–] Atomic 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Give it 3 months and it's all forgotten about. New users won't know the difference.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love it. Especially that the mods of the default subs have the balls to do it

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

turns out it's not a good idea to piss off the unpaid people put in charge of front page subreddits

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Can’t wait for Reddit admins and Spez to realize they have failed.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure they know, but “Refuse to acknowledge fucking up” is the strategy

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Spez succeeded, regardless. His end goal was the IPO, consequences he damned. Rectal fissures were entirely acceptable. Now whether Spez is happy with his booty blasting, that’s another question entirely.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TLDR: Subreddits are protesting against Reddit's API changes, and r/pics, a subreddit with over 30 million members, has marked itself as NSFW (not safe for work). This means that advertisements can no longer be displayed alongside posts in the subreddit. The protest started in June when thousands of subreddits participated in a blackout to protest Reddit's plans to charge for API access. The changes have resulted in third-party apps like Apollo shutting down. As part of the protest, r/pics initially only allowed images of comedian John Oliver to be shared and later amended its rules to allow media featuring Oliver, including erotic fan fiction. The subreddit's moderators posted an "open letter" reminding the community not to swear, as marking the community as NSFW would deprive Reddit of advertising revenue. Reddit has reportedly removed mods for marking their communities NSFW as a protest. Despite this, r/pics was officially marked NSFW on Monday. Other subreddits, such as r/videos and r/funny, are also protesting in their own ways.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Tobe clear - to charge extortionate prices for API access in a deliberate maneuver to kill 3rd party apps and drive users towards reddit’s native app.

App devs were all willing to work with reddit if they could negotiate reasonable fees, but reddit told them to pay up or get lost.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Feels like reading the frontline news from far away. Keep fighting bastards, I don’t know what the end goal will lead too but i know it will be hands of us the victors.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Burn baby burn. I have no illusions on how much we actually affected reddits bottom line but I can only hope that the power users from reddit will slowly leave the platform.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is reddits already public or what is going in with the IPO right now?

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