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[–] [email protected] 201 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I honestly expected after the API changes rolled out that the backlash on Reddit would stop but I'm glad to see the shenanigans continue.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Same, as much as I hope lemmy succeeds, I simultaneously hope that the API changes get reversed. Good job to those fighting for this over there

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

I am afraid the two might be mutually exclusive. Lemmy is like old Reddit and still on early adopters. We get more and more newcomers only because Reddit is going downhill.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Though it's not like it matters to most of us if they do reverse course. I already deleted everything on my Reddit account. It's all gone permanently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Lemmy l's biggest challenges are served stability, increased complexity to use (most don't understand things like instances), and low awareness from others. I only learned about it a day or two ago. Signed up out of curiosity.

But if Lemmy gets even more popular then the various popular instances are going to be stressed. It looks unstable to newcomers who go back to Reddit.

I signed up for lemmy.world originally, constantly had Gateway errors. Lemm.ee seems more stable due to lower traffic.

But others may not be able to recognize that. Even if they did, might not want to create new accounts for several instances and go back to starting from 0.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed. Also joined Lemmy a couple days ago and don't yet fully understand how everything works. I'm hoping that lemmy apps add features to make it easier for people who aren't very tech-savvy, like automatically assigning people to a general purpose instance (one that isn't too full preferably) unless they wish to choose a specific one.

Another thing is that I believe links to posts are somehow instance specific and you have to "convert" them to point to your instance's version of said post, or something like that, in order to see comments and interact. That seems clunky and should probably be made easier somehow, maybe apps could automatically convert links? Or maybe there is a way to make links instance-agnostic from the get go.

Just some things I've noticed in my time here. Very much enjoying the experience though!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm liking Lemmy a lot. I rolled my own instance so performance is great. The only issue is delayed federation of new posts, but comments seem to go through instantly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long of a delay? Do you known if the delay is on your end, taking a while to load from every other instance, or from the other ones being slow to "tell" yours about new posts?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think the delay is due to syncing historic backlog on the community. Not 100% sure though.

On my instance it says that some communities are fully synced so it looks like there is zero delay. So long as lemmy.world or lemmy.ml are working on their end.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I believe the failed Twitter-to-Mastodon exodus made spez and his yesmen cocky. I hope they underestimated how much more tech savvy the average redditor is - especially the nexus poster, who keep the community afloat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they overestimated how much engagement the average reditter provides. Most people are consuming content, but not contributing any or posting comments or clicking ads or anything. 90% of engagement is driven by like 20% of users or some shit like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suspect twitter is similar. But a difference between Reddit and twitter is how easily power users can migrate.

On twitter, you follow people. Power users were often cautious cause they didn't want to lose their followers and non power users wanted to be where the power users are.

But on Reddit, you follow communities. For power users, there's few direct followers to lose and for non power users, as long as there's enough content, it doesn't matter much who created it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Another important difference is that reddit concepts map better onto lemmy than twitter onto mastodon. Additionally, one important aspect of twitter is the proximity to journalists, celebrities and politicians. Reddit doesn't really have that (except for /r/iama).

[–] FuntyMcCraiger 1 points 1 year ago

I think the issue is that the alternative needs to be simmering for a bit before people make the jump.

When Digg went south Reddit had already been an alternative for a while at that point.

The problem with Lemmy and Mastodon is that they're just not quite there yet. Yet.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

No, I figured this would go on a lot longer than just the blackout. There has been a lot of built up resentment in the mod community that the admins never really addressed. Now that the admins ripped away most mod tools, a lot of mods are pissed.