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What would be some fact that, while true, could be told in a context or way that is misinfomating or make the other person draw incorrect conclusions?

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The introduction of seatbelt legislation lead to an increase in nonfatal vehicular injuries

[–] bufordt 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Similarly, the introduction of metal helmets for soldiers corresponded with an increase of head injuries.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Body armor in the second Gulf war contributed greatly to an increased rate of amputations on soldiers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Ah, survivor bias. Reminds me of analysis of damage to bombers in WW2. Data showed most damage was done to the wings and body of planes. The tail, cockpit and engines were rarely damaged. They responded by reinforcing those areas that were frequently damaged.

However they were only observing bombers that made it back to base and so data on planes that were shot down was missing. Luckily someone did eventually realise this and so the research could be used as evidence that strikes to the areas rarely recorded indicated a downed plane.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wearing your seatbelt increases your chances of dying from cancer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This one is great! Made me think way too much

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Light roasted coffee has more caffeine than dark roasted coffee.

Technically, per bean, more of the caffeine is cooked out of the dark roast. However, other things are also roasted out of a dark roast to the point that the individual beans are also lighter and smaller. When brewing coffee, usually you either weigh your dose of beans out, or you use a scoop for some consistency. Either method will result in more dark roast beans ultimately making it into the brew than would with a (larger, heavier) light roast.

Typically, this more than cancels out the reduced caffeine content per bean, so a brew of dark roast coffee still typically has more caffeine in it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I remember correctly, dark roast was also originally devised to hide bad-quality coffee beans. Nowadays it is often implied that darker roasts are better, which actually isn't necessarily the case.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Implied where? All the coffee snobs ik ow drink lighter roasts and derogatorily call dark roasts β€œsupermarket coffee”

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yup, I had to explain this to so many people when I sold coffee. Nobody believed me at all. I explained that dark roast had more of the caffeine cooked out of it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh shit I've repeated this to people and confidently claimed I can "feel" the difference with light roasts. Brains are stupid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Brain make people dumb" -- says the brain. How can I trust it?

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never lost a professional MMA match

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Seattle Mariners have never lost a World Series game

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When people say a politician "raised taxes." More often than not it's a tax that does not apply to 99.99% of the population and they raised it from 0.000001% to 0.000002%

But boy do those campaign ads look good

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similarly, when a politician says they cut taxes, middle class tax cuts are almost always intend to "sunset". That is, eventually, those tax cuts are designed to reverse themselves over time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Maybe in the US. Most tax cuts that happen in Canada at least don't tend to have an expiry. Although new governments do tend to reverse previous government's tax policy. Although it tends to apply to tax policy across the board.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Dihydrogen Monoxide, commonly used in laundry detergent and other cleaning supplies, is also present in Subway sandwiches

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

FACT: 100% of people that consume Dihydrogen Monoxide die.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It can even be found in unborn babies!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They even put it into the water supply.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't know if this counts, since it's only a "true fact" if you are fine with carefully chosen words and the omission of crucial information...

But the 13-50 stat is dangerously misleading.

You know,

Black people make up 13% of the population, but 50% of the violent crime.

Note: these days, black people are 16% of the U.S. population. I'll be referring to it as 16 from this point on.

Black people in America do, in fact, make up 50% of the murder arrests according to FBI crime statistics

That much is true.

But certain people tend to use this fact to assert that police officers -- far more likely to be killed by black people than by white people -- are actually holding back around black people to avoid appearing racist.

The users of this stat heavily imply black people are more violent and murder-prone, and hence a greater threat. The argument also carries with it an implied benefit to eugenics or a return to slavery (to anyone paying attention.)

But no one using this stat ever explores potential causes for the arrest rate disparity, instead letting their viewers assume it comes from "black culture" (if they are closeted racists) or "bad genes" (if they are open racists).

There's no attention paid to the fact that black people make up over half of overturned wrongful convictions

There's no attention paid to the stats further down in that same FBI crime stats table that make it clear that black people make up 25% of the nation's drug arrests, despite making up close to 16% of the US's total drug users. (Their population's rate of drug use is within a margin of error of white people's rate of drug use). So it should be strange they make up such an outsized portion of the total drug arrests in this country.

There's no attention paid to the fact that more than half of US murders go unsolved, and in a country where 98% of the land is owned by white people and the public defender system is in shambles? Well, the murder arrest rate winds up just being a measure of which demographics can afford the best lawyers, rather than any proportional representation of each demographic's tendencies.

There's also no appreciation given for the fact that of the 511 felony murders committed against police from 2010 to 2019, 55 of them (or 10.8%) were committed by black people, meaning police are no more likely to get killed by a black person than a white person.

None of that. The people hawking this statistic intentionally lead their viewers to assume, "arrested for murder" is equivalent to "guilty of murder." And that the entire demographic can be safely assumed to be more dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

You can see the moon from The Great Wall of China.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You are much more likely to die in a hospital than anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Wait until you hear the fatality rate for hospice residents

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don't think this one is true, unless you mean it a different way than I'm interpreting it.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc1911892#:~:text=In%202003%2C%20a%20total%20of,%25)%20to%20534%2C714%20(20.8%25).

(This is the US)

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[–] CompN12 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Newer cars are designed to crush more and easier than older cars.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I feel like crumple is a more accurate word here

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

People on HRT have a significantly higher mortality rate than people not on HRT

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This is minor one, but annoys me how comnmon this is: light is made out of litle packets of energy called photons.

Here is a good video on the topic: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SDtAh9IwG-I (Too lazy didn't watch: Light is an electromagnetc wave and is is not quantized. Only the interactions between atoms and light are quantized)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

human and chimp DNA is 98.8 percent the same

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those who took the covid vaccine have a mortality death rate of 9.172/1000 in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2023 USA death rate is 9.172/1000 so I guess that lines up.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Centrifugal force does not exist

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"A laughable claim, Mister Bond, perpetuated by overzealous teachers of science. Simply construct Newton's laws into a rotating system and you will see a centrifugal force term appear as plain as day." https://xkcd.com/123/

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you have a complicated health issue or emergency, the legislative branch of government dictates your potential treatment.

(Most reputable practitioners will temper their recommendations based upon the professional risk involved.)

[–] bufordt 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes the best doctors have poor outcome rates.

Because they are often taking on the hardest cases.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every year, traffic congestion wastes billions of gallons of gas.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

explanation, since this one might be more confusing than most:

Traffic congestion does indeed waste gas. However, any place worth driving to is going to have congestion--driving without congestion is easy, fast, and comfortable, so people generally won't take other options until roads become congested. Thus, congestion actually reduces gas usage overall, because it is only once areas become congested that people stop driving places.

Trying to avoid congestion, on the other hand, usually involves expanding roads, something which increases driving, and makes other forms of transportation less useful/comfortable, thus increasing gas usage overall.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As ice cream sales in the United States increase, so do deaths in in developed parts of Africa.

I use this fact to explain to students how true information can be used to mislead people into drawing wild, deranged conclusions.

The commonality in these events is the rise in temperature during the summer. But if you leave that out, there's an absurd argument to be made about how purchasing ice cream is inherently evil.

I don't think it's an amazing example of what OP is talking about, but as an example, I like how simple and easy to follow it is. Great for junior high level kids.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is a greater than 5% chance that your death will be someone’s fault.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The infamous FBI crime statistics are probably the big one

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