“Why didn’t we sell more phones this year? We are supposed to have infinite growth!”
“Sir, basically every human has a phone and doesn’t need a new one every year.”
“…no, that can’t be it.”
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Shareholders: "Then make more people you incompetent fucks!"
Hopefully this might collaterally improve wearable tech :[
I'm planning to get a second one just for work (and having work pay for it) so maybe that's the angle they should pursue. Discounts for corporate purchases?
And the other 3.7 billion people is glad to have some food for the day..
Smartphones are at a level of ubiquety in many societies where depending on where you live, even the poorest of individuals will have one. It's not uncommon at all to see homeless people around starbucks getting free wifi to connect online with whatever smartphone they have. It's really dependent on where you live whether a smartphone is at all correlated with wealth.
All societies changed because of computers and smartphones. Lots of people forget that especially for poor people smartphones brought so much benefits that were not accessible before, such as online banking (not needing to go to a bank branch), being in touch with family even when moving away for work, much more access to information (despite the low barrier of disinformation nowadays), online courses, healthcare tips etc.
But but but the Boomers told me things about having a smartphone and drinking coffee that means you MUST not be poor.
I'm not talking about people who have Starbucks around. 🤣
How many of them are well fed kids who don't need a smartphone yet?
I've been day dreaming about getting rid of mine. Its not going to happen (any time soon) but its a nice dream world to live in.
I just want a small laptop. Not a phone. I hate the why apps and crap work and how files are stored. It's so annoying to use
Exactly. I keep looking at small Linux devices, waiting for the day when I can replace my phone with one of those.
Sadly, more and more, an android phone is made quasi mandatory for a number of things (like banking auth), and I'm not sure how to work around that yet.
First really important thing to do is to refuse anything that locks you in.
An Android phone is a small Linux device. Just install termux.
It's not. It just has really heavly modified Linux kernel and the similarities end there. Termux uses a hack that was already patched, so if Termux ever update to newer API level it won't work.
I hate how files, the UI and overall services managment work on Android. I cannot mount a drive, access app's files and their configs, I cannot change the UI environment or system theme (besides basic setting of app launcher and dark/light), I cannot update beyond manufacturer support and swap OSes like on PC and the list goes on...
Termux uses a hack that was already patched, so if Termux ever update to newer API level it won't work.
I got a brand new phone and installed Termux a few weeks ago.
I cannot mount a drive, access app's files and their configs,
That is a problem on normal Android. But with Termux and certain other programs that have the right permissions, like the "File" app that came with my Samsung, you can access the entire OS and network drives.
I cannot update beyond manufacturer support and swap OSes like on PC and the list goes on...
If you root your phone you can do anything.
I got a brand new phone and installed Termux a few weeks ago. Because of backwards compatibility of Android, you can install older apps. But Termux was not updated in ~2 years and no app targeting modern version can use permissions that Termux needs.
That is a problem on normal Android. But with Termux and certain other programs that have the right permissions, like the “File” app that came with my Samsung, you can access the entire OS and network drives. Also not what I ment, I see you haven't used Linux for longer, but it has a concept of mounting. You mount some virtual or real drive to a diretory and then this directory behave like a "portal". By this way you can for example mount online storage drive as it was a physical and for example install programs on it.
If you root your phone you can do anything. Not true. This is in theory, in practice you are very limited by Android messed up nature and lack of documentation from manufacturer side. Look up PostmarketOS, a real Linux distribution that community maintain. You can see how short is the list of supported phones, it needs to be ported for every device separately and takes huge amount of work. Look up PostmarketOS, it is a real mainline (means without much modifications) Linux-based OS. You can plug a monitor in and there would be no difference between PC and this, can install desktop apps.
I see you haven't used Linux for longer, but it has a concept of mounting.
Dude I've used Unix for 40 years since before Linux existed. I had an Android tablet, in which I installed termux on, and mounted my shared network drives using Samba on termux. I literally used the Linux "mount" command to mount it to my termux linux filesystem.
You can see how short is the list of supported phones, it needs to be ported for every device separately and takes huge amount of work
And it was a huge amount of work to port Unix to various hardware back in the day.
Netbooks could have been great if they were started in 2015 and not 2005. Modern day ARM and perhaps future RISC-V could make them miles ahead.
I currently use a Chromebook for "on the go but needing a bigger screen and keyboard", as my thinkpad is too big for that task. I do however consider getting something like an X230 frequently, so I'm not stuck to Chrome OS because mine is not supported by any of the community "Chromebook to usable laptop with Linux" methods.
I literally just had my finger over the order button for one of these Nokia 3310 Remakes, but I didn’t order
Maybe it's only because I am a uni student and not full-on working, but I did. IMO it's improved my overall life, and what little is mobile-only (hi Steam's trade confirmations) can be used in an emulator/VM.
There are multiple apps I have to have for work. MS Teams is the one I doubt I could replicate. Nor do I really want send a reply to an urgent question using T9 input.
I'd like to see an age breakdown.
2.6 billion people are under 20, nearly a billion are over 60. I'd expect those age groups are less likely to own smartphones.
So, the rate for people between 20 and 60 might be closer to 90%.
I would not be surprised if some of the data used and conclusions are incorrect. The article said some percentage that are using 4G. I'll bet all of this is based on active phones. Would not be surprised if they are stupidly presuming 1 phone = 1 person. But the article didn't clarify that, or much of anything else. Tons of people own/use multiple phones.
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>FOR FREE AND UNCENSORED
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Why do they ruin everything? Why did we allow this to happen?