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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

Trump's 10% drop in the dollar, when combined with Trump's new 10% tariffs (and not even counting all his other special tariffs on dozens of countries), means that things are going to get at least 20% more expensive for Americans. Even if he dropped his 10% tariffs right now plus all his many other tariffs, things would still cost 10% more because of his mismanagement of the economy.

And remember, all of this is illegal. All tariffs are supposed to go thru congress. Presidents are not supposed to have the power to unilaterally impose gigantic Trump tax increases on Americans. The Smoot Hawley tariffs of 1930, which were smaller than Trump's tariffs and resulted in an unemployment rate of 23.6% two years later, were passed by congress and merely signed by President Herbert Hoover. Presidents are only allowed to impose unilateral tariffs during "emergencies". Treason Trump never even specified what the "emergency" was, let alone justified it.

 

The U.S. dollar dropped in value by about a tenth against a basket of currencies in the last few weeks, including against the euro, pound, Swiss franc, and yen.

 

"There have been embarrassing accounting errors, lots of public statements that turned out to be false or misleading, or actions slapped back by the courts."

"The spending savings are so small that they will be undoubtedly overwhelmed by the significant tax revenue losses which result from gutting IRS tax enforcement," Riedl tells Axios.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

. US police also kill and hospitalize more people than Chinese police.

LMFAO you aren't the slightest bit credible. Just in this one region alone the Chinese dictatorship threw in jail 1 million people none of whom were criminals.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

[China has been accused of committing crimes against humanity and possibly genocide against the Uyghur population and other mostly-Muslim ethnic groups in the north-western region of Xinjiang.

Human rights groups believe China has detained more than one million Uyghurs against their will over the past few years in a large network of what the state calls "re-education camps", and sentenced hundreds of thousands to prison terms.

A series of police files obtained by the BBC in 2022 has revealed details of China's use of these camps and described the routine use of armed officers and the existence of a shoot-to-kill policy for those trying to escape.

The US is among several countries to have previously accused China of committing genocide in Xinjiang. The leading human rights groups Amnesty and Human Rights Watch have published reports accusing China of crimes against humanity.]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not 'nationalist rhetoric' to be wary of dictatorships. Nobody would care if this was a corporation from the Republic of China. That is the country and people that Americans were huge friends with during and before WWII.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

The exact same can be said about the US, Bozo

No it can't, stupid person. The US doesn't have an anti-capitalist political party that owns all the capitalist corporations and doesn't allow the people to chose their own leaders from other parties or even the leader of the only party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Says the party that can’t stop squealing American First every chance they get.

I'm not in that party. I am Dem. And it is not about nationalism. The Chinese dictatorship has killed tens of millions of Chinese. Why is a dictator okay for Chinese but not for Americans? To be thinking that sounds racist to me.

Cut the bullshit, nobody with half a brain cell left is falling for it.

LMFAO. Nobody with half a brain cell left thinks it is okay for China to have a dictator who has killed millions of Chinese. It also sounds racist to be thinking it was okay that someone killed tens of millions of Chinese as if their lives aren't important.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I hate these “and then people pitched in to help” stories.

These are known as "feel-good feel-bad" stories.

https://thinkprogress.org/do-the-impossible-never-complain-live-the-dream-the-dark-morals-of-todays-feel-good-stories-63b38b4a4953/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The headline did not say 4% of the market. It said a large number without context.

You could have checked the context of total S&P market cap before concluding that $2 trillion was an 'insignificant' number.

and the kind of reporting that leads to it.

CNBC is a highly reputable financial news source. It was wrong to be thinking and suggesting their reporting was bad.

Why are you responding with new information? My critique this whole time has been about this specific article

Okay. I guess my criticism is with the assumptions you made. When you said "the fact that the trend happened to continue this time..." it shows that you think of the stock market as a random casino divorced from real events. If you had known what the reason was for the huge drop on the first day and that it was tied to major past historical events, you would have also known that it was highly likely to continue on the next day.

In summary:

Your assumption that CNBC was a non reputable news source with some sort of agenda was wrong.

Your view of the stock market as a random casino and yesterday's huge drop as a random one-off event not likely to be repeated was wrong.

Your assumption that $2 trillion was an insignificant fraction of total market cap was wrong.

I'm just saying, maybe be a little more cautious next time about throwing your spin on things if it is not something you personally participate in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

The AXIS OF EVIL (2025 edition)

Traitorapist Trump - War Criminal Putin - Comrade Xi - Caligula Jong Un

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Its not about nationalism. Nobody would care if this was a Taiwan company. Communist China is a dictatorship that has killed tens if not hundreds of millions of Chinese. The current dictator was supposed to step down after 10 years but he didn't do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Every business in China has “ties to the CCP.” That’s how it works over there

Than that proves that China is extremely fucked up. What is the justification for the CCP to exist at all if it is going to manage a bunch of capitalist corporations? How come they haven't dissolved the Communist Party since it serves no purpose except to enrich the dictators and elites?

Anti-CCP rhetoric from white rural conservatives is just patent racism

That makes no sense since there is no bias against the Republic of China on Taiwan.

This link shows that the CCP has literally caused the deaths of tens if not hundreds of millions of Chinese. Why the fuck would anybody NOT be "anti-CCP"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Trump imposed on us not just the biggest tax increase in US history, but a tax increase that will be disproportionately paid by lower and middle income people. In case you are not yet aware, these are not random market fluctuations. Trump's tariffs that average +20% overall are bigger than the Smoot Harley tariffs that caused the Great Depression. The immediate market drop happened because of the historical parallels. The total market drop of the S&P in the last 2 days is 10% of market cap. But because of Recency Bias and/or ignorance of history, some people will need to see this play out. And so every day that people hear the news of another country retaliating against US tariffs, there is likely to be more market drops in reaction. Also, when we hear the actual news about lower earnings and fewer exports and more layoffs (e.g Stellantis) and higher prices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act

 

Turmoil on financial markets deepened on Friday, as China hit back at tariffs announced by Donald Trump, raising the likelihood of an extended trade war and damage to the global economy.

All three major stock indexes in the US plunged more than 5%, with the S&P 500 ending the day almost 6% lower, as the sell-off sparked by the tariffs announcement spread.

In the UK, the FTSE 100 plunged almost 5% - its steepest fall in five years, while Asian markets also dropped and exchanges in Germany and France faced similar falls.

The global stock market has lost trillions in value over two days, a rout sparked by Trump's announcement of sweeping new 10% import taxes on goods from every country.

Analysts say the moves, some of which are due to go into effect as soon as Saturday, amount to the biggest tax increase in the US since 1968.

They expect the measures to lead to a contraction in trade, and have warned they could drive many countries into an economic recession. In a note to investors, JP Morgan said it now put the odds of a global economic recession this year at 60%

 

Stocks nosedived Thursday, sending the S&P 500 back into correction territory and toward its biggest one-day loss since 2020, after President Donald Trump unveiled sweeping tariffs, raising the risk of a global trade war that plunges the economy into a recession.

The broad market index dropped 5%, putting it on track for its worst day since June 2020. The Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled 1,630 points, or 3.9%. The Nasdaq Composite plummeted nearly 6% for its biggest decline since March 2020. The slide across equities was broad, with decliners at the New York Stock Exchange outnumbering advancers by six to one.

Thursday’s moves sent the S&P 500 to its lowest level since before Trump’s election win in November, and also erased nearly $2 trillion from the index. The benchmark now sits about 12% from its record close touched in February.

 

The Russell 2000 benchmark entered a bear market on Thursday, down more than 20% from the index’s all-time high close in late November 2024. The index’s decline marks the first major U.S. benchmark to reach that territory following a monthlong market sell-off that was accelerated by President Donald Trump’s tariff rollout.

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