time to get a post upvoted into oblivion and then replace it with a bbc porn gif
this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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We could…but if it won’t make spez mad what’s the point?
Maybe it's a gif of a BBC going into Spez's mouth. 🤷🏻♂️
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I always wondered why that didn't happen more with AMAs. Like edit your question after they answer to make them look bad.
I mean they had people as big as sitting presidents do AMAs.
AMAs with important figures are one instance where I’d have welcomed mods rolling back any ratfuckery edits
Trolls would do it frequently
Either post something nasty, get downvoted heavily, then edit it to something mildly political or whatever, screenshot it with the downvoted, and say "wow here's proof reddit hates..."
Or do the inverse, post something guaranteed to get up votes and then edit it to something heinous
Blue Bean Can?
Like Sir David Attenborough?
I don’t think this is a good thing, way too easy to abuse, spread misinformation, or sell a post to advertisers
I agree. I think it’d be a good feature if users can see edit history.
-> GitHub -> feature request (issue)!
Always search to see if it's been made already first though.
Depending on the situation it can be a good or a bad thing.
Is the history tracked? Or can you get a top ranked post, then change the contents entirely to look like something else?
AFAIK, not tracked. So potentially abusable.
I read (on Reddit, to be fair) that upvotes/downvotes are public on some instances?
..and that users of those instances can even see votes on other instances where votes are private?
Can anyone confirm? I can't find any other source to corroborate.
I've noticed some comments/posts have the number of up/down shown but not others. I just wrote it off as a bug.
I’m pretty sure it’s an admin option in instances to enable or not things like downvotes, or show the up and down numbers, or just the total etc.
I wonder if it's just that they only show the two numbers if a comment has downvotes? It would be a weird UI choice but I can see it happening, since technically you're not missing any info, it's just that the user doesn't know about the information they're not missing unless they understand this detail. It would be clearer if they were shown on all posts.
EDIT: Yeah that's the answer, look, you can test it by downvoting your own comment (or I guess someone else's but don't do that you meanie poos):
EDIT 2: This is now old info, it looks like this has been changed in the latest update lol. Fast-changing times we're living in.
I belive it’s a kbin thing. There is an issue open for it here.
It's not only a kbin thing. Votes from Lemmy are still not anonymous. You can see who downvoted and upvoted any post from kbin, even if the voters were on Lemmy.
Even if kbin was to hide this information, it would still be sent from instance to instance. It'd be harder to see, but still accessible.
(From what I understand anyways)
I read through some of that link and the problem doesn't seem likely to be fixed anytime soon. But I didnt read it fully because it didn't look like it was going anywhere.
And is that......a problem? If true, it would help the community detect brigading ad vote manipulation, without having to rely on admins to do it for us.
I was happy when I realised this.
It’s almost like we can do things the way we want because we want to. Strange feeling after the bullshit constraints of facebook, Reddit, Twitter, tumbler…
It's been a long time coming - they'd beaten us so far into submission that stuff not working like it should was just mildly irritating because we couldn't change The Way Things Are Done. Now suddenly we can and it's lovely.
This. So much this! It's so comfy to be on the fediverse that I lack words to describe it!
You're telling me
I am indeed.
I wonder if seeing the handles of the users who deleted their comments on some Lemmy apps is a feature or a bug.
That's the default behavior here on my home instance, I've noticed. If I delete a comment, it's still shown that I was there, so I find myself thinking it over more.
Oh so it's got to do with instance and not the apps? I didn't think that was the case since I could see those names in some apps and not the others. Must have been in different instances then.
So even if we're from different instances our handles will still show up if we post and delete comments in other instances that keep the handles visible?
Edit: just did a test under this comment and I still see my handle.
That's a good question, and I don't know any of the specifics, but the apps are doing their best to implement features provided by each instance, and federation is made possible by way of their common underlying code (ActivityPub). When things act up in the app it's likely because different instances handle different things locally. Voting is a good example, some instances and communities effectively turn it off.
One of the things I like about Reddit is that you could remove whatever you've posted as and when you want, at least on the surface level. I'd definitely want my username to not be visible once I've deleted my comments. Call me paranoid but I have a habit of deleting comments that reveal too much personal info (e.g. "I'm an abc working in xyz..." or "my abc is suffering from xyz...") every once in a while but if a particular comment has already been quoted and replied by many then deleting it but still keeping my username would mean that people can still more or less guess the original content and trace it back to me.
You should probably know that deleting your comments on reddit is pretty ineffective. They don't discard the actual content of your post from their database, and there are websites whose sole purpose is to host undelete archives of reddit threads. I can't verify this but I've also heard they're rolling back a lot of comment deletion after the recent drama.
That's the part I don't really get about people's attachment to reddit identities, in hindsight that's a ten year history of things I was dumb enough to share on the internet and I'd gladly wipe that slate clean if it were a real option.
Test
That is stupid... One moment I have to test this
It should always be assumed that once something is posted online, it is there forever.
My understanding is that some of these things are less explicit desired functionality and more oversights that simply haven't yet become worth the developer effort they would take to remove from the codebase.
Actually, I just thought about it, and I think there should be an option to have partial deletions. either way it's not as bad as I initially thought because you always can just edit your comment to say just "[deleted]" manually
Ultimately I think it's a moot point. The nature of the fediverse means that any time you make a post, that information propagates across multiple servers and databases. Any of those might be backed up, scraped, defederated from, or temporarily brought offline. Anything you purport to create, edit, or delete can be stuck in any conceivable intermediate state, entirely outside of your awareness or control without recourse.
This isn't reddit, this data doesn't become the property and responsibility of a single centralized entity. Everyone would be best served to return to the old internet adage that anything you publish should be considered permanent and public.
Another reason to love Lemmy. I haven't been on Reddit for a while now and I don't even miss it. ~~I~~ It got really dull the last couple of weeks. So happy I'm here.
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