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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Most of the discussion and sources of content talk about movies and series.

I've been recently looking for psy and techno music, finding FLAC or WAV with active seeders feels like striking gold. It's definitely been a while since I've looked for active torrent sites and it feels more barren than ever.

Edit: Thank you all for all that valuable information. The reddit group really wasn't this helpful and valued making fun over adding real use able knowledge.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's certainly alive and exists.

But access to music is easy and affordable. It's more inconvenient for me to pirate it than just use a streaming service.

I also listen to a lot of independent artists and rather buy their stuff to support them.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

Yup, I buy what I like on Bandcamp.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only music I pirate is stuff that isn’t on Spotify, namely Nintendo game soundtracks

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Expect a cease and desist order

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Doug Bowser will be at their doorstep shortly

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The thing is not every popular or moderately popular song is on any streaming site. I'm a fan of 90s and 00s trance music, and there are some notable songs that aren't available on any of the most popular paid services, or are available only in newer, re-recorded versions or remixes - some of them are available on Spotify, but not all. YouTube Music has such an advantage that you can listen not only to the songs uploaded by record labels, but also to countless additional songs available on YouTube, however most of the time they are in worse quality (AFAIK max audio bit rate in YT videos is 128 kbps). So while streaming services are now affordable and have very extensive audio library, they have some shortcomings that one can only fill with physical media or piracy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I prefer there not being any lag in-between songs, which most streaming services have.

I usually use a streaming service like YouTube (through piped) to find new artists, then use soulseek to download their entire discography.

The problem with streaming is that the companies will eventually figure out new ways to squeeze every penny out of you. The once 'free' YouTube is now blocking adblocks, and Spotify requires DRM to be installed for it to function.

For me, piracy isn't just about convenience or price, it's mainly about control over the media I have.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The soulseek network is still alive and well.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Since Apple Music / Spotify I don’t find it necessary. Far more likely to pirate TV / movies because they’re spread out across so many different services and require so many different subscriptions.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

why pirate when bandcamp has everything I want on FLAC for pennies

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

The album prices are pretty high sometimes and many artists are not on bandcamp

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I buy on Bandcamp and pirate through Soulseek (specifically Nicotine+).

I also buy Vinyls.

Torrenting music has been pretty trash for me so I haven't bothered in ages.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have people download my files on soulseek/nicotine+ daily. Plus anyone that would pirate music probably already know how to rip it straight from streaming services.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Soulseek is still around? It's been like 10 years since I've used it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I use it daily, they even have a mobile version called Seeker which is pretty nice.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'ma get hate for this but I'm not pirating out of principle but when I think something it's to expensive for it's price. I live in a country with good salaries and have to work less than one hour for one month of endless music. To me that is a good deal but I am aware that it is not to everyone especially those from other countries. I mostly pirate Movies and TV Shows because you would need to pay over 50€/month to get access to all services.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

I have Spotify through a family plan but I do download backups for when the enshitification happens to them.

I just use lidarr with the deezloader script. Sign up for a month of deezer premium every six months and just download my back log. For $30/yr I always have a relatively up to date, lossless quality, music library backup.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As the normies went to streaming it became more gatekept and toxic. I’m mainly familiar with the attitude of trades only or straight up selling tracks (eg groupbuys with kids paying thousands of dollars for some shitty Kanye mumble demo). The game didn’t used to be like that. The days of the blogs with mega/rapid share links are long gone

I mean you got all the stream rippers eg SlavArt which is super nice. Soulseek is still alright but getting taken over by traders. RED/OPS around but you can’t just waltz in and I’d argue they don’t compare to what.cd or even OinK. RuTracker still got stuff going on

But when you’re after actual rare stuff that you can’t just buy or stream it can be real tough nowadays. Scene archives can be nice but very hard to get access and it’s mostly mp3s.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck traders, if you're on Soulseek do the right thing and blacklist them.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Soulseek is very much alive, try there. But please try to share your stuff too.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally, I tend to only pirate music files that I just can't find anywhere else. For example, audiophile quality 45rpm vinyl rips of albums that might have only been sold in that format once, and for a very limited run. In cases like that, I almost feel a responsibility to maintain a copy because it is something that could very easily disappear from existence.

The guys doing the rips understand that they might own one of maybe a few hundred copies of a certain album, so they rip at audiophile quality and share.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

I don't think it's dying at all. Check out private music trackers like https://redacted.ch/index.php or https://interview.orpheus.network/

OiNK -> WHAT.CD -> RED

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Rutracker.org maybe. I find pretty much every music I want on it. Though i mostly listen mainstream so maybe it is easier to find it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (12 children)

I've always wondered why today you would torrent music instead of just downloading the audio from another site like yt.

The only upside I could see to torrenting music is the better quality, which is fair I guess, if you want super high quality.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on how you listen music, most of the time it's nice to be able to torrent the full discography of a specific artist. Or just download an album you bought because you don't have time to rip it yourself (vinyls for example).

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Music is hard to find on public trackers. RED and ORP are awesome private trackers that have basically anything you can think of. And if its not use the deezload telegram bot and send it a link to the song on deezer

Or you can you soulseek. That's still very viable even today

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The thing about it is that Spotify premium to me isn't that expensive and has everything I need

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

quite a bunch of services that can pull high quality music directly from streaming sites. straight up lossless stuff as well

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not for me, I'm pirating tons of songs in these days. Try Soulseek it's a gold mine of good music with great quality

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I still use soulseek, been using it for nearly 20 years at this point

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

You can pay for any streaming service that serves FLAC and rip that. Very easy to do for Tidal and Deezer for example.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I personally like being able to use Spotify as my front-end, but it doesn't support flac. So I personally pay for Deezer's Flac option, I use xManager for listening to music on Spotify, and I have a script setup to automatically download all my liked Spotify songs from Deezer in lossless flac. It's not free by any means, but is the best/easiest way to download music I've found.

https://github.com/jbh-cloud/spotify_sync

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Music is a weird subject for me. I torrent download practically everything else to have a copy of it on my hard drives. 30+TB of anime, movies, tv shows, manga, audiobooks, etc but music is the one thing I dont really download or listen to very often. I have a modded Spotify app that I use for the times I do listen to music. I do this so i dont have to pay for a subscription, but that is as far as my music piracy goes.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Pandora slowed a lot of my music collecting. Spotify and an unlimited data plan on my phone all but stopped it.

Don't need to dedicate 500+gb on my phone to my music if I can just pull up whatever I want. The only stuff I keep on my phone now is Dwelling of Duels and some game remixes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I use satclubbing for electronic music and metal tracker metal. Something else I've started doing is getting second hand CDs. They are going really cheap right now and will likely become vintage and sought after in a decade odd. I basically buy them and rip them and keep them in storage.

[–] mbeezy 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Somehow free-mp3-download.net has every Song i've asked for until now, ~~with both 320kbp/s MP3 and even flac Downloads.~~ apparantly Just transcoded 128kbp/s Files

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I checked a few files at random, and most of the FLACs had a sharp cut off above 16 kHz. Most likely they're just transcoded 128 kbps MP3s - can't recommend.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I've been meaning to start a music collection for a bunch of old goth music from small bands that risks being lost to time. Thanks for this post I'm gonna get my ass moving on it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not for me, I don't like to have my music online, I download every song that I like and keep it stored on my drives. I mostly download from Youtube

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