I'm not happy with this development, but I'm slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.
this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2023
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Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious
I was curious what lemmy.ml has to say about this but it seems the linked post was deleted in the meantime 🤡
It's my fault. I signed up for it before I realized it was a pro China instance and the other day I said I'm not a Communist.
I feel like I might have legitimately helped as well by mocking them incessantly for being campists and not socialists
Where you drunk?
Who, me? Never.
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The poster was banned for trolling but I saw a comment showing that it is real.
It is definitely blocked.
Source: I'm in Mainland China.
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I don't understand why the pro China tanked subs would get banned but not the rest.
Even China is embarrassed. You ever had someone defend you but really poorly? Ya.
This is exactly it.
I'm moving to China for work, so I'm interested in alternative points of view on Chinese society from the usual U.S. mainstream media CCP hate boner. I checked out hexbear, and... my goodness.
They cheer for a version of China that the Chinese themselves would be embarrassed by. It's clearly driven by 14-year-old white boy edgelords who are enamored with a hardcore Marxist-Leninist vision of China that never existed, most likely in reaction to a dislike of modern Western capitalism. I mean, they referenced "struggle sessions" with nostalgia and cheer for Bashar al-Assad because China is being friendly to him.
Real-life China is quite different from the depictions you see on main Lemmy instances, but it sure as hell isn't anything like what the tankies are jerking off to, either.
It feels like most Western CCP cheerleaders are basically cheering on a pre-Deng version of the CCP and haven't quite noticed that the CCP of today would totally purge anyone pushing the pre-Deng/pre-1978 views of the CCP.
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They might spread western ideas of communism in China. That’s not something China can allow.
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The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.
Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.
They don't really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc.
Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.
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Supporters of autocratic state capitalist regimes like China and Russia also aren't left-leaning.
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I think I'm confused. I haven't seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It's right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I've never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I've seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.
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This is too funny. What a great post to wake up to lmfao.
China*
Please stop saying "mainland China". It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
It means without Hong Kong.
Mainland China refers to China sans Hong Kong and Macao, yes. Because you have to distinguish and "Mainland China" is a whole lot less typing than "China but without Hong Kong and, oh yeah, Macao too".
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The official name of Taiwan's government is Republic of China, and it's the continuation of the government that controlled all of China before Mao's uprising.
So I'm not sure your argument makes sense. They claim to be the legitimate Chinese government in their own name.
Outside of that very specific context, China == PRC. I understand the history of Taiwan very well, and it's important for people to understand that they are two different countries.
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lmfao the Xinny the pooh boot suckers are banned from their favourite dictatorship?
Leopards ate tankies' faces!
I tested two services that supposedly allow you to check if a site is blocked in China. I don't know with certainty how accurate these tools are in general, but I can say they gave me consistent results for lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, and lemmy.ca. Hexbear and lemmy.ml register as blocked, while other instances go through.
https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world
https://www.vpnmentor.com/tools/test-the-great-china-firewall/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca. Lemmy.world could not be parsed using this tool, perhaps due to not being set to work with that TLD.
The original post on lemmy.ml has been removed by the mods with this justification:
Removed Post lemmy.ml has been banned in China mainland reason: Not a question
Source: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost
What community was in posted at? I hate how these post URLs don't show the community in the URL.
EDIT: The modlog is interesting. Very sporadic activity up until a few days ago, and then the mod is cleaning up posts, comments, getting rid of moderators, etc.
It was in AskLemmy iirc. Which, yeah, definitely the wrong place to post that.
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Critical support for the comrades in China for having to put up with those instances for so long.
That's fucking hilarious, if true.
"Papa China is just gonna go buy some milk, lemmy.ml, you're in charge, don't let hexbear use the stove or any knives while I'm out!"
[disappears forever]
Ironic.
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Heh. Ironic.
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