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The good news is that Congress, at the last minute, averted a government shutdown, at least for now. The bad news is that billions of dollars of funding for Ukraine were stripped from the continuing resolution as a sop to House Republicans who want to cut off the embattled democracy altogether.

Aid to Ukraine still has the support of roughly two-thirds of both houses — something you can’t say about many other issues — but a dangerous milestone was reached last week when more House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid (117) than voted for it (101). That reflects a broader turn in Republican opinion, with only 39 percent of Republicans saying in a recent CBS News-YouGov poll that the United States should send weapons to Ukraine and 61 percent saying it shouldn’t.

To do the right thing for Ukraine, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will now have to go against a growing portion of the Republican base. It is, nevertheless, imperative that he show a modicum of backbone and bring a Ukraine funding bill to the floor immediately. It is not only the right thing to do morally — we have an obligation to support a fellow democracy fending off an unprovoked invasion — but it also is the right thing to do strategically. In fact, it is hard to think of any U.S. foreign policy initiative since the end of the Cold War that has been more successful or more important than U.S. aid to Ukraine.

Yes, in absolute terms, Washington has given a lot of money to Ukraine: $76.8 billion in total assistance, including $46.6 billion in military aid. But that’s a tiny portion — just 0.65 percent — of the total federal spending in the past two years of $11.8 trillion. With U.S. and other Western aid, Ukraine has been able to stop the Russian onslaught and begin to roll it back.

In the process, Russia has lost an estimated 120,000 soldiers and 170,000 to 180,000 have been injured. Russia has also lost an estimated 2,329 tanks, 2,817 infantry fighting vehicles, 2,868 trucks and jeeps, 354 armored personnel carriers, 538 self-propelled artillery vehicles, 310 towed artillery pieces, 92 fixed-wing aircraft and 106 helicopters.

The Russian armed forces have been devastated, thereby reducing the risk to front-line NATO states such as Poland and the Baltic republics that the United States is treaty-bound to protect. And all of that has been accomplished without having to put a single U.S. soldier at risk on the front lines.

That’s an incredible investment, especially compared with U.S. involvement in other recent wars. In Afghanistan and Iraq, both launched under a Republican administration, almost 7,000 U.S. troops were killed and more than 50,000 were wounded while Washington spent more than $8 trillion — only to see Afghanistan fall to the Taliban and Iraq come under Iranian influence.

Republicans who claim to worry so much about corruption in Ukraine, even though there is no evidence that any U.S. aid has been misused, seldom had anything to say about the truly pervasive corruption in Afghanistan and Iraq, which siphoned off billions in U.S. taxpayer dollars. A forensic accountant who audited U.S. spending in Afghanistan from 2010 to 2012 found that about 40 percent of $106 billion in Defense Department contracts “ended up in the pockets of insurgents, criminal syndicates or corrupt Afghan officials.” Yet Republicans never proposed to end funding for that war.

The war in Ukraine also stacks up impressively compared with other proxy wars that Republicans, under the Reagan administration, did so much to support — from Afghanistan to Nicaragua to Mozambique. In Ukraine, we don’t have to worry about our weapons going to anti-American religious fundamentalists such as the Haqqani network. We are funding a free people fighting to preserve a liberal democracy that will be a stalwart member of the Western community for years to come.

Republicans often complain that the United States is doing the heavy lifting and our European allies aren’t doing their fair share. That’s not true in the case of Ukraine. This summer, the Kiel Institute for the World Economy reported that “Europe has clearly overtaken the United States in promised aid to Ukraine, with total European commitments now being twice as large.” Yet, despite the growing European assistance, Ukraine still relies on U.S. support; even combined, Europe and the United States can barely keep up with Ukraine’s need for artillery ammunition and other munitions as it wages an industrialized war of attrition.

By funding Ukraine, we are strengthening transatlantic ties and keeping faith with our closest allies. If we were to cut off Ukraine, that would be an unspeakable betrayal not only of the people of Ukraine but also of all of Europe. Stopping Russian aggression is an existential issue for the entire continent. Cutting off Ukraine would mean that the United States is turning its back on its post-1945 security commitment to Europe — a commitment that has underpinned the longest period without a major-power conflict since the emergence of the modern state system in the 17th century.

Supporting Ukraine is also needed to deter Chinese aggression. Some on the right claim that the war in Ukraine is a distraction from the Pacific, but that’s not how the Taiwanese see it. Taiwan’s representative in Washington noted this year that supporting Ukraine — as Taiwan is doing with humanitarian assistance — “will help to deter any consideration or miscalculation that an invasion can be conducted unpunished.”

Many Republicans understand that. “It’s certainly not the time to go wobbly,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said recently. But the MAGA wing of the party, led by former president Donald Trump, has turned against the war because of its isolationism and soft spot for Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, a war criminal whom some on the right ludicrously see as a champion of Christian values.

Ironically, many on the right claim to want a negotiated solution to the conflict while doing everything possible to ensure that Putin has no incentive to negotiate seriously. The more Republicans do to endanger aid to Ukraine, the more likely Putin is to assume he can outlast the West and keep fighting.

Once upon a time, Republicans understood the need to resist the “evil empire.” As a former Republican, it sickens me to see so many Republicans so eager to do Moscow’s bidding. But, mercifully, the vast majority of members of Congress — including many Republicans — still staunchly support Ukraine. McCarthy cannot let the MAGA caucus block the best investment the United States can make in its own security.

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[–] TheMightyCanuck 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Republicans: we have to spend our money on Americans first

Also Republicans: fuck you, no more student load help

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans don't want to help all Americans, just their own class.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not even that they'll gladly sell each other out if it can benefit their personal business interests.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Okay, fine. Then let's spend our money on healthcare for Americans.

No? Then what about green technologies to keep us competitive, create jobs, and help the environment? Also no?

Oh, I see. We should spend the money on payments to the wealthy in the hopes that they would let a few pennies spill out of their pockets and be too lazy to pick them up before the poor people scramble to get them. Got it.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You can't call yourself a true patriot if you don't relish the thought of an old adversary perishing in a war against someone else. Its gotta be obvious the Republican party is compromised at this point, especially after allegations over the years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nationalism doesn’t usually end well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are self ascribed patriots. I'm just calling them out. Please, don't start a nationalist party.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I’d rather start an Internationalist party. ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh I wouldn't go that far. I have no desire for the UK nor Germany to perish in a war for instance. And I don't want to see Russia perish in war. But they must absolutely lose in Ukraine, unequivocally.

I would've preferred to see them be a thriving democracy, perhaps one that had figured out how to better mix capitalism and communism. We could have shared our cultures and combined our knowledge to make massive scientific advancements.

But Russia didn't choose that path. And now they have to be defeated. They promoted far right candidates in the West with the intent of destabilizing countries, and they actively spread COVID misinformation. If there's to be a hope for democracy and a free Russian people, we have to do everything we can to defeat the Putin regime.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Why couldn't we have helped Russia after the collapse of the USSR instead of letting it languish and turn into what it has become today? That would've saved a lot of lives, but I suppose then you couldn't have that eternal enemy to show off how much of a patriot you are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I both agree and disagree, but you are blaming the US/West far too much. Russia was not a US colony, and there is no manual on how to fix a country when it collapses. It's not entirely clear how we could've helped, especially in a manner that didn't just look like enriching private corporations or wealthy Russian oligarchs.

What happened in the end is a very common story -- a place is having economic hardship and struggle, a strongman leader restores stability, the strongman rules as a tyrant. The tyrant longs for old days of glory, and so forth.

I disagree with the commenter above that we should relish the thought of Russia's defeat because they were a former adversary. I wish things had happened far differently. My disdain is largely for Putin, not for Russia itself. We can learn from the past, but the fact remains -- Putin and Russia must fail in Ukraine for peace to be established, innocent lives to be saved, and sovereignty to be respected. Ukraine is not Russia's colony, and Putin needs to be punished for forgetting that.

Say Russia loses and Putin is deposed. What do you think the US and West should do in that situation? This isn't some gotcha question, I'm genuinely interested in what you think would be the best path forward for the Russian people to thrive and have a peaceful democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We could have, and we should have. But those choices were made by different people than us. Maybe if we had made some other choices instead of just nationalist ones we could have had an ally by now. But as you said, we'd have no eternal enemy to point to, and imperialists love state enemies.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also it's not a bad we're aligning "the bread basket of Europe" with the west at a time when food insecurity in rising all around the world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

For no other reason than: if poor = no food for you.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't want a weak Russia. They want a strong Russia. Because that's what Putin wants and Putin now controls their party as much as Trump does.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Remember when a bunch of high profile Republicans went on a trip to Moscow and tried to get an audience with Putin on Independence Day?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The republican traitor filth are owned by the blyats. That’s why they can’t acknowledge the obvious: Western interests, and especially American interests, are perfectly aligned with helping Ukraine. We’re getting another century of American-led Western dominance by destroying the pathological russian state. And at a steep discount, compared to direct action.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

$10b would provide meals for kids in schools and eliminate school food debt. We did it for one year during COVID but now lunch ladies get to go back to debt collection. Just to put these figures in perspective. The US govt doesn't care about its own people.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

$10b is nothing, a rounding error in the federal budget. It's a sad day when you come to the realization that people go hungry and homeless simply because we allow it. Both problems could be solved in under a year if we had the will to do so.

That said, Ukraine is worth supporting, it's definitely not an either/or situation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Afghanistan and Iraq ... Washington spent more than $8 trillion

Never let anyone say we (America) don't have the money do to things. That's bullshit. If this country could spend $8 trillion dollars on a war that accomplished nothing, we can spend money to help those that need it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (29 children)

Weakening the enemy and getting Intel at a fraction of the cost with someone else's boots on the ground. Then there's looking good on the world stage and strengthening relationships with allies. They're also getting rid of old gear to swap for new. It's cheaper giving it away then dismantling it.

This isn't "world police" bullshit. The US is taking advantage it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. And if this war does expand to NATO vs Russia (which segments of Russia seem to really want and others rightfully fear), it will involve fresh NATO troops with tons of weapons and intel as to how to use them for maximum damage vs tired Russian troops with limited supplies/ammo.

Assuming such a hypothetical scenario doesn't turn nuclear (which, admittedly, is a big assumption), the US/NATO would be a much better position for having supported Ukraine. In fact, it might prevent such a war because Russia might have been so weakened by the Ukraine conflict that they don't even try to attack a NATO country - knowing that they'll be soundly defeated.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

To do the right thing for Ukraine, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will now have to go against a growing portion of the Republican base.

Aaaand he's gone the very next day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The bad news is that billions of dollars of funding for Ukraine were stripped from the continuing resolution as a sop to House Republicans who want to cut off the embattled democracy altogether.

To do the right thing for Ukraine, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will now have to go against a growing portion of the Republican base.

It is, nevertheless, imperative that he show a modicum of backbone and bring a Ukraine funding bill to the floor immediately.

In fact, it is hard to think of any U.S. foreign policy initiative since the end of the Cold War that has been more successful or more important than U.S. aid to Ukraine.

We are funding a free people fighting to preserve a liberal democracy that will be a stalwart member of the Western community for years to come.

Republicans often complain that the United States is doing the heavy lifting and our European allies aren’t doing their fair share.


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