Holy fuck, I loved SaveAFox, what the hell is wrong with people 😭🤮
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Genuine question: apart from the people who would profit from the activities she was fighting against, or the would-be patrons of such a business.... Why would anyone carry hate for what she was trying to accomplish?
I know there's a whole religious argument, which I find to be wretched at the foundation; just because you 'have dominion' over creatures does not imply that it's ok to torture them and/or kill them for their fur unnecessarily....
Anything else? I just can't think of anything.
I don’t really know any details about how stuff worked beyond just saving foxes, but my random guess would be people calling it woke and attacking that, there are many people who think things involved with helping the environment and things related to that is bad. It seems like anything considered remotely “woke” is attacked because of rhetoric coming from the right wing.
It seems to be related to fur and there are people who dislike the idea of losing access to animal products like fur coats and leather goods, that is likely related.
Mainly the same criticism of famous social media influencers who are not qualified or experts in the thing they are doing. Being passionate about something doesnt make everything you do the right thing. All that said, I don't agree that should cause hate, but criticism or opposing opinions were fair in this situation when it comes down to animal welfare.
Not the ending any reasonable person would want I would hope.
I remember watching some fox channels with a lot of rescue foxes including one called Finnegan. Was that her? So sad that anyone would harass somebody like that.
Yes, that was her channel.
NOOOOO :(((( I am heartbroken:(((
poor fennigan and Dixie :(((
Hers was SaveAFox
I would also like to add another perspective.
I think its important to bear in mind that there are plenty of examples of animal rights and environmental organisations that have been the target of harrasment campaigns bankrolled by corporate and political interests.
I'm not suggesting this is what happened here. I think we have to scrutinize any possible conspiracy -- I really want to make that clear. If you look through the other comments, there's a lot to delve through here.
But I would suggest bearing in mind that smear campaigns aimed at cultivating a kind of political nihilism is something that does happen.
The best you can do, if you care about these causes, is to continue to support them in whatever ways you can.
In my opinion, all animals deserve a hell of a lot better than this.
As a long time SaveAFox fan, Mikayla's death is crushing. This is a woman that deeply deeply cared for animals selflessly her entire life.
The internet has no shame and has become a truly abhorrent place.
It was reddit. Reddit is dead center of this.
Edit: its amazing how being correctly identifying reddit as the culprit is downvoted on lemmy when its clear most of us are here because reddit sucks a skunks ass.
Proof? Not that I'm saying you're wrong, I'm just not familiar with this lady at all so would like to know more.
There was a whole subreddit called "r/SaveAfoxSnark" that went private after the news came out. One reddit mod there got doxxed, panicked, and deleted their whole reddit history.
Edit: The mod's reddit handle is/was KazeoLion. There are only quotes here about this, so take it all with a grain of salt until we know more. These are YouTube comments:
MappleBunny 13 hours ago One of the people responsible for the bullying is a reddit user by the name of KazeoLion, who has since been doxxed and had to delete most of his reddit posts (which are still available in the wayback machine), he even made a post where he doubled down on his actions.
We will neither forgive nor forget. Rest in peace Mikayla
bluebowser3347 21 hours ago There was a whole subreddit called r/SaveAfoxSnark that was dedicated to bullying and harassing Mikayla. The moment the news came out that she had killed herself the subreddit switched to private.
No, this was the SaveAFox person... This is like hearing if The Girl With The Dogs were to suddenly die tomorrow. I'm not sure I could handle so much good leaving the world so quickly.
They had been posting fundraising updates on their YouTube for the last couple weeks. I hope they can keep it going.
Why the fuck would you harass someone for saving foxes? Is it because she's a woman?
God gave us dominion over all creatures read the Bible!
There are children dying in the streets here, why don't you do anything about them?
The foxes bread for fur here are not capable of living in the wild, "rescuing" and releasing them is the real animal abuse.
I think fox fur is fancy, fuck you lady!
Just some examples I can think of off the top of my head. People can get pretty polarized when it comes to killing, or not killing animals.
I believe she had BPD as well, which in itself often gets you targeted harassment online while also making you extremely sensitive to said harassment.
Wait what? People harass people online because they've got BPD? Like they specifically target people who are suffering from BPD? Why??
Fucking gross.
I don't know her at all - is that BPD diagnosis something confirmed, thet she shared and all?
I have terribly mixed feelings about people with BPD.
On one side, lots of empathy: they often feel miserable and (not always, but) very often their BPD is the result of trauma or abuse.
On the other, and having lived it for a decade and a half: they can make the lives of people in their surroundings an absolute abominable horror-movie type of nightmare.
It's actually treatable but not all people with BPD seek treatment, it's a tough one.
How hollow that must feel. Not getting any justice or retribution.
And the disgusting people to blame are probably praising themselves, now.
RIP
As a long time supporter of SaveAFox, it's hard to really even process this. I am sure being an online personality to try and fundraise isn't easy, but never did I dream that there was such a degree of hate lobbed at Mikayla that she'd decide to end her own life. Someone so kind and devoted to the lives of creatures who are constantly exploited and cannot save themselves. It's just despicable, and all I can really hope for is that Mikayla's mission continues on in spite of such significant loss.
It is a sad state of affairs when a person is doing something actually good to help animals and they get harassed. May her legacy live on forever.
Those posters should be identified and held accountable. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back style maybe. What a horrendous situation.
Perhaps someone prone to depression and suicidal ideation might be well advised not to choose a highly visible public career where one is constantly exposed to the rantings of evil trolls.
This isn't victim-blaming, it's just an acknowledgement that the world as it currently is, is full of toxic backwaters that should be avoided.
That still sounds like victim blaming to me? Yes, there are a ton of shit people in the world, but I feel like rather than "she shouldn't have taken up that career", we should instead be fighting back against the idea that people are allowed to be this shitty:
- What's up with these people that they give out so much abuse?
- Did YouTube and other sites do anything to protect her?
- What else can we do to protect vulnerable people from abuse while letting them do their job?
- What support did she get? Could she have had more?
- How can we prevent this from happening to the next content creator?
I don't know the answer to these, but just saying 'she shouldn't have started in the first place' feels like a massive cop out to me.
Depressed people are told to get out and touch grass and do something good for the world, some go and do that and then get attacked and bullied for doing something good in the world. Then someone says well they shouldn’t have done this or not. IMO I would agree its victim blaming. Mental health systems suck in many countries where people rarely get the help they need and then people online bring cruel and inhumane because they can hide behind a screen.
Shut the fuck up, this is absolutely victim blaming. "Maybe she should've just wallowed in her depression quietly instead of trying to show others what it's like to help and advocate for helpless wild animals."
Sad, I watched her shorts sometimes. Apparently there was a hate 'snark' subreddit that just made up shit about her all day, with some members connected to the factory farming fur industry, and pedophilic artist KazeoLion, leading the harassment
So.....wait. I've never heard of her, but you're saying there was an entire subreddit deddicated to making up lies about her, saying she did horrible shit, KNOWING what they said was a lie? Because if I'm reading this right, that's pretty fucked up.
Jesus, it really goes to show how shitty humanity really is.
I actually really liked watching those foxes laughing, it was a nice little bright spot in a world fully of cynicism and bullshit and if course shitty humans had to be shitty humans harassing her for being a decent human being.
This one hits me hard. So sad. So goddamn sad. Seeing her and those foxes really cheered me up. Her death just stabs me right through the heart.
Another reason why the US healthcare system sucks shit.
Why the hell would anyone feel any need to harass someone like this? Shit like this is never justified, but once in a while I can understand their motivations. Not this. RIP, she was pretty cool.
Some nasty people just see someone who appears vulnerable/has mental health issues and use that as an excuse to attack someone. there's this really fucked up site called Kiwifarms that's been around for over a decade that was specifically made for trying to harass and bully people to death for being "weird", trans, or neurodivergent. it could also be they were jealous of her popularity