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after my trip my depression went way down even if my ex was pissed at me during it (surprisingly didnt make me crash)
should take it again soon as that was almsot 5 years ago
I think its important that talking therapy was included too.
Yeah for me 4 times a year would be ideal but i tend to put it off a lot even though the experience is always enjoyable
TBH partner and I are keen to give this a go for anxiety/depression. Keen for it to become standard)/accepted
If you have an interest, you're ready for them. For what it's worth, I find that the bad trips are the most beneficial. They're a manifestation of problems often ignored, displayed in a way that is highly symbolic.
Best way to get some?
You can easily grow mushrooms that contain psilocybin at home. It's an easy process, the internet has plenty of communities.
If you are not very experienced with psychedelics, please inform yourself about best practices / harm reduction. Look into set and setting. Have people around who you trust.
For most people, psychedelics are not a substitute for therapy. The healing happens in between trips, but you have to put in the work - don't skip integration. The average Joe will need professional help for that.
If you have serious issues or if you are repressing a lot of stuff, it will most likely come up during a trip and you will have to process it - psychedelics show you what you need, not what you want. That being said, most people that have a lot of experience with psychedelics will tell you even difficult trips will lead to positive gains.
Overall, it's mostly a marvelous and wonderful experience that can be life changing, but please treat it with the respect it deserves.
the internet has plenty of communities.
as much as I don't like linking there, the /r/unclebens community is great. It's based on a very easy guide to grow your own, and get advise if there are still questions.
I don't think there's a lemmy community about it. yet.
100% agree with the post. The chances that you will just get cured from your depression with some shrooms are greater than 0, but getting an assistent trip with a professional will greatly increase your chances. Getting a professional who is willing to do it, even off the record, is the hard part
What are clebens and why do we want to un- them???
Just in case, for the non-Americans from regions that do not have the specific brand, the sub name is in reference to prepackaged "Uncle Ben's Ready Rice" which is used in this specific mushroom growing tek.
And for everyone out there diving into the insane amount of “documentation” out there
“Tek” is simply shorthand for “technique”.
I would not qualify it as easy. It is doable, but it takes a bit of time, effort and equipment. Did it twice, first time failed, second round I finally figured out my problems. Took a few months before I had anything worth keeping.
You could also just go to Denver and buy some there. I had a lovely day with a friend after eating some local chocolate and hanging out in cheeseman park. 10/10 would do again.
Depression? You can have some of mine, I have more than enough for everyone.
/r/unclebens
There sidebar has a full tutorial.
So I went on a mushroom walk once, they were literally growing in a grass field. Look up liberty cap. Obviously don't just eat random mushrooms that you find
I do not doubt this for a second. These trips, well done and accompanied, in a safe setting, can be very therapeutic.
what a coincidence
I just came out of a trip with my bf
he had a really bad trip, unfortunately. I gave him alprazolam and it did nothing
after about 3-4 hours he got better, took a shower, ate, now he's sleeping soundly
iirc from research I've read it doesn't matter if the trip is good or bad, it still relieves depression all the same
yeah, that's what I heard too
I hope the experience what some kind of catharsis and he's gonna learn from it
I don’t know what alprozolam is but a bad trip sounds way better than that
Alprozolam is generic for Xanax. Which is a severe anti anxiety drug and heavily abused on the street.
yup, but in this specific context I actually had a prescription from my psychiatrist, who gave it to me to use to kill a bad trip (he is aware me and my bf use magic mushrooms sometimes)
I ended up messaging my doctor, but when he answered my bf was already getting better, so I just took care of him and gave him a half tablet of Seroquel (quetiapine) to sleep, and now he's good again (that's what my doctor told me to do)
What were the numbers for people who just got therapy?
Yeah, that is the key question. Not to mention that the headline is giving 100% of the 'credit' to the psilocybin.
Smells fishy to me.
Definitely going to be the first drug I try, when I decide to finally start using drugs.
Dude start off with something more mellow, or you're going to be extremely disappointed if/when you decide to try other drugs. Psychedelics are so intense that I don't even consider them to be drugs. They're something else entirely. A "god molecule", if you will.
I'd suggest starting off with Nitrous Oxide and/or weed first. Nitrous has psychedelic properties (but without the visuals), and cannabis can also be psychedelic when you have no tolerance. Also they last more in the minute range—not hours (especially nitrous)—so they'll wear off a lot quicker should you decide you don't like the feeling.
Trust me, I've tried every drug under the sun. I'm a daily or near-daily user of several substances; psychedelics like shrooms are the one substance that I avoid. Only for special occasions, once every few years at most. Not the very first thing I'd try. It would be the very last.
Everybody is different, and it depends on what you're after. Research different substances of interest, how they work, contraindications, best practices for use, and the kind of effects they have. From there, select any specific substance you want to try, and do so responsibly.
There's lots of folks out there who have done mushrooms or other psychedelics as their first non-alcohol psychoactive experience. The trick is getting at least some understanding of what you're getting into first and preparing accordingly. I also wouldn't compare different compounds with different effects/mechanisms of action in a way that would make you disappointed/underwhelmed/whatever. They're different and should be evaluated on their own terms.
That's just me though.
I appreciate the deep personal insights and advice. Well taken.
Okay great. Now this stranger on the Internet would recommend not listening to that stranger on the Internet.
Do not take nitros oxide. Not only is it dumb as fuck, it literally gives you nerve damage, among many other side effects that anyone could find with a short simple search.
Weed and mushrooms are two of the best drugs on the planet and have minimal long term negative effects. I love mushrooms and it's all about dosage- how many grams and how strong is it per gram. NO it will not ruin your perception of other drugs. Acid is way stronger I'd recommend avoiding unless you have a whole week to recover.
Just vape weed or better yet take edibles and some mushrooms you should have near 0 negative physiological effects. Why tf would you do laughing gas you'll damage yourself what is this a street party in 2005 god damn. Not to mention just makes you act like a damn fool
I'd like to offer the counterpoint that someone once advised me not to try weed until after I'd tried LSD, I followed that advice and I think it turned out for the better. There isn't exactly a benefit to being very impressed by the intensity of other drug experiences, and psychedelics can give you a sense of perspective about what you want out of life that's useful for navigating choices. They also tend to be self-deterring; you likely will feel more satisfied and grateful to have your feet on solid ground again after a trip, as opposed to immediately craving more, even if it was wonderful, which is a very convenient property many other drugs lack.
I've only done it a few times, but nitrous made me laugh so much, it was great. Nitrous starts fading as soon as you breathe out and is over in 10min tops, but for weed, give yourself an evening to get stoned for the first time. Feeling cramped for time is a huge vibe killer.
Also, modern weed can be way too strong for a first-timer, but if you can find a low-thc/high-cbd strain, you'll have smooth sailing. My poor in-laws hadn't smoked since the 60s, and the budtender sold them a thc vape, good times were not had. Don't make their mistake, haha.
Ketamine too. You can get it in a clinical setting without a prescription. It has a half life of about twenty minutes so if it’s not your thing it’s over quickly. One session gets you two separate doses, so you trip for about an hour, and feel totally normal afterward. Great for depression too.
In a non clinical setting, ket lasts about two hours but you pull up more sober than weed or booze.