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[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

Not in any order:

  • Military / warfare

  • Excessive HVAC use: heating/cooling unnecessarily large spaces (as opposed to zoned) and by more degrees than necessary

  • Unnecessary and inefficient transportation. This includes most air travel, cruise ships, shitty urban planning, commutes for jobs that can be done remotely, large/inefficient automobiles.

  • Cryptocurrencies and AI

  • Consumer junk based on planned obsolence, lack of reliability, poor quality, and excessive packaging (often plastic)

  • Food - increased per capita consumption of animal products and egregious amounts of food waste.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

I don't think any industry pollutes more per client served than the cruise ship industry.

The most impactful things you can do for the environment is to push your representatives to pass regulations. The USA is absurdly unregulated at the federal level.

[–] JamonBear 7 points 2 days ago

Advertising.

Cause it's driving over-consumption, by flooding people brains with shit ideas, turning them into idiots in the process.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The worst are wars imo. Massive usage of resources to build war machinery, massive destruction of infrastructure that used resources to build, massive usage of resources to clean up and rebuild... And it's usually not accounted for: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/warfares-climate-emissions-are-huge-but-uncounted/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

This one definitely does not get enough time in discussion, especially with so many active wars in the world currently.

[–] kersploosh 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

In the US it's roughly a tie between road transportation and energy generation (which lumps together both heat and electricity).

(Source: University of Michigan https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/sustainability-indicators/carbon-footprint-factsheet)

The global breakdown is similar: https://www.wri.org/insights/4-charts-explain-greenhouse-gas-emissions-countries-and-sectors

The solutions? Build mass transit, live in temperate climates, buy less stuff, ...? Honestly, I don't think we're not going to fix the problem with simple, local improvements (though by all means do what you can). There are global demographic forces to contend with. A century ago there were 2 billion people on earth. Now there are >8 billion, and in my lifetime we will surpass 9 billion. Many of those people are climbing out of poverty, and they want cars and air conditioners and all the other energy-intensive things that rich countries have enjoyed for a century. IMO we're going to need massive technological changes (like powering much of the world with nuclear very soon) in concert with a major population reduction and/or major changes to how people expect to live.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nuclear is: very slow to make, very expensive, generates dangerous waste, invites proliferation.

Wind and solar are quick, relatively much cheaper, create little waste. The sun is forever.

Personal transportation needs a complete redesign. Burning fossil fuel at 20% efficiency (80% waste) to push a 4000lb. vehicle with a 200lb person in it is insane. Personal electric vehicles of 200-300 lbs tracking defined lanes at 20mph under computer control would take care of 80-90% of urban travel needs. And greatly reduce the number of roads needed.

[–] neidu3 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm curious about how CO2 emissions from road construction in the US compares to that of Europe (adjusted for scale, obviously).

Concrete creates A LOT of CO2, and after driving a lot in both US and EU roads I can say that US roads involve a lot more concrete.

EDIT: Autocomplete and autocorrect is even worse at this than I am..

[–] kersploosh 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Side note: If worrying about climate isn't enough, we can also worry about potential famine as we use up our fossil fuels.

We are able to feed the world because of the Haber-Bosch process. This process uses fossil fuels, usually natural gas, to produce synthetic ammonia for fertilizer. That fertilizer makes modern high-yield farming possible. "Without the Haber-Bosch process we would only be able to produce around two-thirds the amount of food we do today."
https://www.thechemicalengineer.com/features/cewctw-fritz-haber-and-carl-bosch-feed-the-world/

[–] emergencyfood 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are numbers for these, you know. Biggest sources of carbon emissions are (1) burning fossil fuels and (2) land use change (converting natural ecosystems such as forests, grasslands and wetlands - to plantations, farmlands and concrete).

Most beneficial activity is <redacted>.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There are numbers for many things. It doesn't stop people from discussing their thoughts on them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you own your home, you can drastically reduce your carbon.

  • installing solar to take energy off the grid
  • install a heat pump to generate heat and cool off of electricity
    • even if your grid is pure coal, this is still more efficient than burning your own gas
    • you can keep a gas furnace as a backup, look up "dual-fuel" systems
  • take transit whenever possible
  • if you are in a car dependent area, look into e-bikes and EVs. Even replacing just your commuter car can have huge impacts, you don't have to replace them all.
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Going vegan was the easiest for me. The Co2 impact is massive!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Obligatory “not vegan” but it’s hilarious to me when people ignore this.

Why do you think we cut down trees? Yes, more farmland. Farmland for what? To feed the cattle lol

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cattle are ruminants - their one super power is they can eat grass from marginal land that can't grow crops, they don't need grain at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And about 30 seconds on google shows that’s less than 3% of beef production. That’s why deforestation is so rapid.

If we shifted all of our cattle to grazers, we’d have less than 1/3rd of our current beef production due to land constraints.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We have about 5x as much range land as we do arable land on the planet.

Soil stewardship and replenishment are critical to a sustainable ecology - and ruminants are key to generating new top soil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Also, for the record, not every inch of land categorized as grazable is not able to support cattle (arid, bad soil fertility, mountains and other terrain issues, etc.). When I said we couldn’t meet current demand, that assumes those were non-issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure bud. Sure. Just make all the cattle free range and we solve every problem in the world.

Now we just have to subsidize beef even more than we already do so that people can afford their free range beef. God forbid they eat another form of protein that’s sustainable and environmentally friendly.

There’s reality and then there’s your hypotheticals. I’ll continue to discuss reality but not absurd hypotheticals like “let’s just change 95% of our beef production”.

And for the record, 5x is a vast overstatement. It’s closer to 2-3x. Still not plausible. Even if every single inch of grazable land on the planet were filled with cattle (and no other animal), we could not fill current beef demands. And that’s a demand that will grow very rapidly in the coming decades.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God forbid they eat another form of protein that’s sustainable and environmentally friendly.

The non-animal protein that is sustainable and environmentally friendly - where does it get its fertilizer from?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They get it from synthetic fertilizer? You think it comes from cattle lol?

Dude, you cut a cow and you need WAAAAAY less land and fertilizer than if you feed that cow.

And yes, not all land for cattle feed can be used for human crops, but even if we had zero beef, we’d have enough land to support human crops.

I honestly think you’re trolling now because you’re not only denying reality and making up absurd claims, but you’re ignoring my points and not responding to them lol.

Is synthetic fertilizer bad for the environment? Sure, but we need a hell of a lot less when we decrease beef production. If you add more cattle for natural manure fertilizers, you need more land to grow their feed. This is a self-perpetuating cycle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I agree with the idea of going vegan for the environment, it is unfortunately an unattainable diet for many people on the planet. It is not cheap to be vegan, even though with the wealth of technology and advancement we have it should be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I pay about 20% less than before. Can't prove your point.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is hard to believe that you are paying 20% less on a vegan diet and getting all of your required nutrients to remain healthy considering the cost of nutritional supplements and foods required for a healthy vegan diet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I don't really care if you believe me. I'm just saying what's on my bill. My blood is checked regularly and is completely normal.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 16 hours ago

Generally when people can save 1/5th of their grocery bill with something that is also great for the environment, and can do it in a way that keeps one healthy, people share that information for the benefit of others.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

#1 Making more humans #2 Making less humans

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Having children

The last thing this world needs is more little consumers, especially living, or aspiring to, the western levels of consumption

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I agree with this. We have more than enough people to deal with and don't need any more people on the planet until the last batch expires.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

The excess production of useless shit that nobody would need or want without the manipulation of advertising convincing us otherwise. Cell phones and such are nice, don't get me wrong, but do we need thousands of factories around the world churning out cargo ships full of cheap plastic junk that's designed to fail? No. It only exists because it makes some rich people even richer, and it's burning our planet down. If all that productive capacity was bent to the purpose of meeting peoples' actual needs/reasonable wants it would be a different matter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no need to express opinions when we have good estimates for both your questions:

Sector by sector: where do global greenhouse gas emissions come from? -> https://ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissions-by-sector

individual solutions reviewed and assessed by Project Drawdown, including their relevant sector(s) and their impact on reducing heat-trapping gases -> https://drawdown.org/solutions/table-of-solutions

Both the links above are from a very interesting video on the topic that I suggest to take a look at. Also the whole channel is really interesting and well done -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReXaS4QausQ

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I am aware their are numbers behind this. I am asking for peoples opinions on the matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago
  • Energy demand to power heavy industry that we all use (steel, aluminum, chemicals, fertilizers)
    • I don’t see these going away, so it’d be best to make their processes greener by repurposing the carbon into ag products, then institute a viable carbon tax and offset the rest of their footprint
  • Use of concrete in construction
    • some promising technologies coming that crystallize the carbon and use it to self heal the concrete, carbon tax and offset the rest
  • Shipping
    • bring manufacturing closer to consumers, global environmental manufacturing and shipping standards, improve right to repair laws
  • Transportation
    • upgrade public transportation options where it makes economic sense to do so, make our cities and towns more people friendly instead of car friendly, raise the gas tax to fund these efforts. Reduce the amount of detached single family housing stock and encourage multi-family stock, particularly in cities.
  • Heating and cooling
    • incentivize heat pumps, add taxes to heating fuels and fossil energy plants to fund it. Start a major campaign to educate people to keep temperatures around 68 (winter) to 76 degrees (summer). And encourage use of ceiling fans.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Honestly, capitalism.

The whole damn consume consume consume mindset. The idea that things are discarded instead of being repaired or properly recycled.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Yes, capitalism.

The hype trains alone are a massive issue. But shareholder value!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t know, there are progressive capitalist countries which do pretty well, especially in Europe. And there are nominally communist countries which have the highest number of new coal plants and poorest environmental records on the planet.

saying “capitalism“ certainly does make people check out because that’s an irresolvable “problem”, compared to “See if you can start eating vegetarian one day a week and beef no more than once every two weeks”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Hm you had me at the beginning but lost me at the end. Me as a non massively rich person does have no influence whatsoever. Don't try to tell me otherwise. I did my part and tried to get the world in a better state yet we have degraded massively globally over the last decades.

(that does not mean I stopped trying)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What Economic system would you change out for Capitalism?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Communism or socialism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Bad

  • Voting for reactionary or fossil industry-backed parties and candidates
  • participating in local initiatives with climate action delay campaigns (eg "wind farm too loud", "PV lowers property prices", "bike lanes decrease spending")
  • keeping an internal combustion engine car,
  • keeping a fossil fueled heating/cooling system
  • paying for fossil fueled electricity plans
  • building with concrete
  • eating an omnivore diet with high waste lifestyle

Good

  • Bicycling
  • avoiding transportation
  • using public transit when necessary
  • decreasing load on electric grid
  • using self-made energy (ie PV, communal wind) at the right time (ie washing clothes on solar peak)
  • building with timber
  • eating a plant-based diet with low waste lifestyle
  • understanding LCAs of various materials and things
  • increasing participation in circular economy (recycling, waste separation, repair shops, 2nd hand/gift economy)
  • listening to actual science
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most beneficial thing is to choose a more minimalist lifestyle. Buy only if you need it, use only if you must and discard only if you absolutely have to. These principles can be applied to pretty much everything, from eating at a restaurant to buying clothes to using technology.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I agree with this. Minimalism is the way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For typical middle-class people (like the ones probably reading this), usually the single worst thing they do is flying. It's the only way to blow your personal carbon budget for the whole year in just a few hours.

That's at the individual level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And air travel is increasing.

Air travel for leisure / tourism is environmentally irresponsible to the extent that I cannot personally justify my participation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Well done for being ethically coherent. Estimates vary, but to be sustainable on a planet of 9 billion, the number of flights per person per year has to be really low indeed, functionally zero. So I'm with you more or less - almost no more flying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I think when it comes to flying we should go back to balloons. We don't need to reach far distances as quickly as we do, and we could drastically cut emissions if we grounded all the planes.