Leave it to Microsoft to waste yet another effort on things people don't care about and ignoring the things people do care about.
Fuck AI
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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That's because I want my computer to do what I tell it to, not to fucking guess.
Your computer has placed 1 order for Guess brand jeans.
Oh, I care. I would not buy one.
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If I see "AI" on a product (like those weird "AI" mice) I put it down and select another.
I came here to say this.
There are two things I like:
- AI grifts failing
- Cheap aarch64 laptops
This story has it all!
No idea what an aarch64 is, but I upvoted you anyway because you seem so happy! 🤣
Basically:
Intel, AMD, and Microsoft are all going down a dead-end road called x86_64, especially on portable devices.
Apple and Google took a turn ages ago, towards an alternative called aarch64. Originally just for phones, but now for everything.
VR headsets, Raspberry Pis, IoT devices, etc. also tend to run aarch or aarch64.
Microsoft has been trying to follow suit, but it hasn’t gone well so far. Windows for ARM (the aarch64 version of Windows) is supremely unpopular, for a lot of (mostly good) reasons.
So people avoid the devices or ditch them because none of their apps run natively. But Microsoft basically has no choice but to keep pushing.
So the end result is, Microsoft is subsidizing tons of excellent hardware that will never be used for Windows cuz it’s just not ready yet.
But Linux is!
Edit:
Funny thing is, ARM (company behind aarch64) keeps shooting themselves in the foot, to the point where lots of companies are hedging their bets with a dark horse called RISC-V that never had a snowball’s chance in Hell before, but now could possibly win.
And if Microsoft still hasn’t built a new home on aarch64 by the time that happens, they may accidentally be in the best position to capitalize on it.
RiscV to CPU is what Linux is to OS
It will win in the end because closed source corpo trash will always enshitify and erode its market position. Just like micro-shit is the best marketer for Linux
It's ultimately a war of attrition which is something the quarterly crowd can never reliably win. They're ziptied to the market while the open alternative can continue to do the hard but necessary work of getting better over time and can stand to be ignored for decades because it's mostly hobbyists.
ARM architecture 64 bit. It’s the style of CPU in your phone and MacBooks, known for being energy efficient and it’s performance is getting better too.
The big downside though is that loads of old Windows apps aren’t going to run on these as effortlessly as they would on conventional x86-64 CPUs from Intel and AMD.
Given where I live, I suspect my future computers are going to be something called Risk-v inside. Running HarmonyOS.
Which suits me fine as I de-USAify the rest of my life as my phone and my computer age beyond utility.
I thought that was pretty obvious by now? Based on how much the companies are trying force feed people their latest version through constant notifications about assistants, assisted search, etc.
It's one of the greatest flaws of relying on social media for market research: Tech-bros being overly loud about things like AI, NFTs, etc. trick companies into thinking more people are interested.
Now they've invested tons of money and people aren't biting, so they're constantly nagging people to engage so they can justify their expenditure.
Hence why it is important not only to deny the parasite profits but also engagement 🐸
Facebook still tries to push their metaverse (including shit like branded virtual clothing??) on people using the quest. It's in your face when you boot up the device and it ""recommends"" me worlds to join from time to time. Brother I just want to play beat saber
*actively don't want
This. There's a huge difference between not caring and intentionally avoiding.
I'm waiting for all AI "features" to be isolated onto a single chip which I can just reach into the case with a pair of plyers and crush into dust
Then you'd juat have to deal with errors from processes expecting it to be there. Probably better to instead not use software that implements it, which I assume you're doing anyway.
I switched to Linux over Copilot.
Fuck AI.
Same here. I don't want shit pushed on me. I love the freedom of Linux.
What benefit is there?
AI basically takes what I already see in search results and tries to make it a conversational summary. I don’t want a conversation or to read a made-up wiki summary, just give me the correct and pertinent result. Problem is that they put AI first and search result quality has been deteriorating for years, so two wrongs don’t mean forcing it on users is right.
I'm in the same boat. Besides some image generators my kid and I used to create some avatars, I don't get it. Don't need a conversation, just give me search results. Don't waste my time.
also no one has money to buy new laptop
also no one has money ~~to buy new laptop~~
FTFY
Don't lump me in with you. I'm well on my way to a massive fortune. I work hard everyday and everyone around seems to be less well off. I probably die in the lap of luxury. Sorry, my manager is asking me to clean the bathroom again. Ill finish my thought here in a second.
I bought mine in the fall, and holy smokes, the same model costs 30% more now.
Absolutely insane.
Trump did that
The hype around this shit is astounding. That people who make decisions about products from huge brands keep buying in is shocking to me. How can something so useless (to most people) capture the imagination of educated and intelligent people? It's a sign of how broken capitalism is. Rational thought is replaced by fear of missing out.
Not educated and intelligent people, wealthy investors.
We're sighing at having to build all these features the boss wants and we know they are stupid and we see the lost oppertunity cost that could have been used to improve other things instead. I'm tired and the job market is so ass right now.
Most of the concrete value that can be delivered by connecting things to the Internet and simple algorithms has been extracted by silicon valley. The only capital extraction mechanisms left are difficult things that only a government has the capital access to make real progress on (e.g., AGI, advanced robotics, self-driving vehicles, space exploration, etc.) and hyped up garbage that big investment firms think they can extract value out of either the public (through scams like cryptocurrency) or other investors (through LLMs and AI hype) and sell before people figure out that it's smoke and mirrors.
We made real progress on the backs of mostly government-funded research projects like DARPA and GPS. The industry was able to optimize and innovate the shit out of the earliest computing breakthroughs where now you have a device in your pocket that can hold several libraries of Congress and beats anything put out in desktop form 20 years ago. But since the tech companies that matter are all giant, there just aren't ways for them to grow market share (everyone's their customer) or get many more dollars out of their existing customers. All that is left are scams and bad business practices. That's why we're in the golden age of enshittification.
Ugh, I don’t want to be forced to build a laptop to avoid all this battery blasting garbage.
If you boot aarch64 linux instead, you’ll actually get amazing battery life on these. And probably better app support than Windows ARM
The only problem there is that you then have Linux running which is one of the most actively user-hostile things you can run.
And this is in a world where every major software vendor is turning their software against you. It's still less hostile a user experience than Linux.
Is it even feasible to build your own laptop? As far as I know most of the laptop builds are proprietary.
It’s because people into AI are using GPUs
They dont get that people want AI hardware that can also run games
I worked in IT for 12 years, and even i don't give a shit. AI is stupid and it's not even AI
Can’t wait to buy a used laptop with an NPU and a bunch of ram for my home lab to run private LLMs on. Just gotta be patient. 🙃
As they write in the article... What's a compelling app? In fact what even uncompelling software (copilot aside) makes use of this?
From what I understand, this is the trend because Apple Silicon works. It has well integrated GPU with CPU with great memory for AI tasks on a minimal case. You can run DeepSeek (the 671B one) on it. Who wouldn't want that? The problem is that those companies hardware, specifically the firmware, is not to be trusted.
Imagine a world where you would have to jailbreak everything on your PC for it to work. I think that's what they're going for. AI is really useful, and if they can make something like Mac Studio cheaper, it has obvious value.