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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I switched to Linux over Copilot.

Fuck AI.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Same here. I don't want shit pushed on me. I love the freedom of Linux.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What benefit is there?

AI basically takes what I already see in search results and tries to make it a conversational summary. I don’t want a conversation or to read a made-up wiki summary, just give me the correct and pertinent result. Problem is that they put AI first and search result quality has been deteriorating for years, so two wrongs don’t mean forcing it on users is right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I'm in the same boat. Besides some image generators my kid and I used to create some avatars, I don't get it. Don't need a conversation, just give me search results. Don't waste my time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Leave it to Microsoft to waste yet another effort on things people don't care about and ignoring the things people do care about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I worked in IT for 12 years, and even i don't give a shit. AI is stupid and it's not even AI

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The hype around this shit is astounding. That people who make decisions about products from huge brands keep buying in is shocking to me. How can something so useless (to most people) capture the imagination of educated and intelligent people? It's a sign of how broken capitalism is. Rational thought is replaced by fear of missing out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Not educated and intelligent people, wealthy investors.

We're sighing at having to build all these features the boss wants and we know they are stupid and we see the lost oppertunity cost that could have been used to improve other things instead. I'm tired and the job market is so ass right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Most of the concrete value that can be delivered by connecting things to the Internet and simple algorithms has been extracted by silicon valley. The only capital extraction mechanisms left are difficult things that only a government has the capital access to make real progress on (e.g., AGI, advanced robotics, self-driving vehicles, space exploration, etc.) and hyped up garbage that big investment firms think they can extract value out of either the public (through scams like cryptocurrency) or other investors (through LLMs and AI hype) and sell before people figure out that it's smoke and mirrors.

We made real progress on the backs of mostly government-funded research projects like DARPA and GPS. The industry was able to optimize and innovate the shit out of the earliest computing breakthroughs where now you have a device in your pocket that can hold several libraries of Congress and beats anything put out in desktop form 20 years ago. But since the tech companies that matter are all giant, there just aren't ways for them to grow market share (everyone's their customer) or get many more dollars out of their existing customers. All that is left are scams and bad business practices. That's why we're in the golden age of enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

From what I understand, this is the trend because Apple Silicon works. It has well integrated GPU with CPU with great memory for AI tasks on a minimal case. You can run DeepSeek (the 671B one) on it. Who wouldn't want that? The problem is that those companies hardware, specifically the firmware, is not to be trusted.

Imagine a world where you would have to jailbreak everything on your PC for it to work. I think that's what they're going for. AI is really useful, and if they can make something like Mac Studio cheaper, it has obvious value.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's good. They shouldn't care. I'll keep saying this until the cows come home: AI is not something that can be used responsibly by most people. As the technology currently exists, it has rare and specific use cases -- anything where you can accept a high failure rate, or can verify an answer more easily than you can posit one. This is completely against user expectation, and when the market realizes this, the bubble could pop.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago

Ok but the tech is still new...

[–] Banana 119 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's because I want my computer to do what I tell it to, not to fucking guess.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago

Your computer has placed 1 order for Guess brand jeans.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh, I care. I would not buy one.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

💯

If I see "AI" on a product (like those weird "AI" mice) I put it down and select another.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I came here to say this.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are two things I like:

  • AI grifts failing
  • Cheap aarch64 laptops

This story has it all!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No idea what an aarch64 is, but I upvoted you anyway because you seem so happy! 🤣

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Basically:

Intel, AMD, and Microsoft are all going down a dead-end road called x86_64, especially on portable devices.

Apple and Google took a turn ages ago, towards an alternative called aarch64. Originally just for phones, but now for everything.

VR headsets, Raspberry Pis, IoT devices, etc. also tend to run aarch or aarch64.

Microsoft has been trying to follow suit, but it hasn’t gone well so far. Windows for ARM (the aarch64 version of Windows) is supremely unpopular, for a lot of (mostly good) reasons.

So people avoid the devices or ditch them because none of their apps run natively. But Microsoft basically has no choice but to keep pushing.

So the end result is, Microsoft is subsidizing tons of excellent hardware that will never be used for Windows cuz it’s just not ready yet.

But Linux is!

Edit:

Funny thing is, ARM (company behind aarch64) keeps shooting themselves in the foot, to the point where lots of companies are hedging their bets with a dark horse called RISC-V that never had a snowball’s chance in Hell before, but now could possibly win.

And if Microsoft still hasn’t built a new home on aarch64 by the time that happens, they may accidentally be in the best position to capitalize on it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

RiscV to CPU is what Linux is to OS

It will win in the end because closed source corpo trash will always enshitify and erode its market position. Just like micro-shit is the best marketer for Linux

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's ultimately a war of attrition which is something the quarterly crowd can never reliably win. They're ziptied to the market while the open alternative can continue to do the hard but necessary work of getting better over time and can stand to be ignored for decades because it's mostly hobbyists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

it's mostly hobbyists.

I can stay retarded longer than they can stay solvent. There are millions and more people are joining every day!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ARM architecture 64 bit. It’s the style of CPU in your phone and MacBooks, known for being energy efficient and it’s performance is getting better too.

The big downside though is that loads of old Windows apps aren’t going to run on these as effortlessly as they would on conventional x86-64 CPUs from Intel and AMD.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given where I live, I suspect my future computers are going to be something called Risk-v inside. Running HarmonyOS.

Which suits me fine as I de-USAify the rest of my life as my phone and my computer age beyond utility.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The phones is the hardest one, there just is no practical alternatives to the main two. Even degoogling is centered around pixels and other mainstream brands.

I am looking at Nothing at the moment, I want something green and private.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My next phone (probably in another two years) will likely be running HarmonyOS. My next PC (even farther off) is also likely to be running HarmonyOS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I did see some work arounds for banking apps with harmony OS. I kight have another look.

There are barriers, I dont want AI or the crazy HDR processing but I do want a decrnt camera. I'd love a phone with hardware kill switches for loads of features.

Sorry I was mixed up, I dont trust Huawei one bit. I think they make great tech but I dont want them in my life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I trust Huawei a fuckton more than I'd trust Google or Apple or Microsoft or ...

And by the time I'm in the market for another phone/PC it won't be just Huawei making HarmonyOS phones/PCs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not entirely sure about that, they are all the same one is just state sponsored.

HarmonyOS is their property, its not like they couldnt get nefarious shit into it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

...

I don't even know where to begin to unpack this.

I guess I'll start with the "nefarious shit". Nefarious shit like taking periodic snapshots of your screen (against your will) to feed an AI? That kind of nefarious shit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah...Im not defending microsoft here I dont use a single product of theirs outside work.

Im saying they are the same, with less oversights, tramsparency and more state complicity(or at least visibly so)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's adorable that you think the USA has "oversight" over its megacorporations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I didnt say it was laudable oversight but it is more than what we see of China.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

The word "we" is doing heavy lifting there.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought that was pretty obvious by now? Based on how much the companies are trying force feed people their latest version through constant notifications about assistants, assisted search, etc.

It's one of the greatest flaws of relying on social media for market research: Tech-bros being overly loud about things like AI, NFTs, etc. trick companies into thinking more people are interested.

Now they've invested tons of money and people aren't biting, so they're constantly nagging people to engage so they can justify their expenditure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Facebook still tries to push their metaverse (including shit like branded virtual clothing??) on people using the quest. It's in your face when you boot up the device and it ""recommends"" me worlds to join from time to time. Brother I just want to play beat saber

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Hence why it is important not only to deny the parasite profits but also engagement 🐸

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

This. There's a huge difference between not caring and intentionally avoiding.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for all AI "features" to be isolated onto a single chip which I can just reach into the case with a pair of plyers and crush into dust

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

also no one has money to buy new laptop

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

also no one has money ~~to buy new laptop~~

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Don't lump me in with you. I'm well on my way to a massive fortune. I work hard everyday and everyone around seems to be less well off. I probably die in the lap of luxury. Sorry, my manager is asking me to clean the bathroom again. Ill finish my thought here in a second.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bought mine in the fall, and holy smokes, the same model costs 30% more now.

Absolutely insane.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Trump did that

[–] Gullible 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Ugh, I don’t want to be forced to build a laptop to avoid all this battery blasting garbage.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you boot aarch64 linux instead, you’ll actually get amazing battery life on these. And probably better app support than Windows ARM

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

The only problem there is that you then have Linux running which is one of the most actively user-hostile things you can run.

And this is in a world where every major software vendor is turning their software against you. It's still less hostile a user experience than Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s because people into AI are using GPUs

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