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You say "knowingly patronise", I say "buy some bread". Grownups recognize that we live in a society and people hold different opinions. How can you be sure there are no nazis feeding you, clothing you, transporting you? Especially with the ever-widening scope of that term, it's on the verge of making no sense, being a catch-all term for stuff people don't like. Instead of engaging others and finding common ground, people are behaving like kids, completely blocking others out for any documented slight.

If you knowingly patronise a nazi bakery, that’s fine?

I live in Croatia, I certainly buy bread from some nazis unless it's a franchise bakery that these days employ mostly SEA immigrants. The beliefs of the person selling me bread or writing code I'm using don't come into play at all, that's what I'm saying. The left is practically falling apart because of principled children who'd cancel anyone for their beliefs.

Now I have a interesting moral question.

What's if the nazi baker is the only in town or it's the only who make bread at a price you can afford?

There's certainly a threshold where morals outweigh the desire for a product or service.

It would depend on many factors, I don't think is as black/white as it may seen.

knowingly supporting a nazi

First, criteria for what one considers a nazi are open to interpretation and nowadays the bar is ridiculously low. We have a bicycle kitchen cooperative in Croatia where almost all of us volunteers hold leftist views, but there's an occasional boomer known to say problematic stuff as a shitty joke, or a grandma shows up with her son's bicycle that has one of the many Croatian totenkopf variants which the kid put up using same protocol as Marge with a potato. We never refuse to help them. I also engaged some of them in conversation and when you get down to the bottom of their exclusionary views you often find they're decent people with good moral compass and the stupid jokes or totenkopf stickers are adopted wholesale through the media or because of a personal tragedy.

Just get your bread from a different baker.

Sure, the free market will fix it, very American thinking. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. Croatia is a good example because our fight for independence in the 90s saw the attempted rehabilitation of actual nazis from the 40s as freedom fighters and Croatian patriots, which means that (still, nowadays) whenever boomers have a celebration with alcohol, there'll be some singing about the superlative exploits of actual nazis. It's just the way our society currently is, it's still our society. The only way to change that is to engage with them and show them you hold a different opinion and are still a relatable human being. I have a feeling most lemmy users would just cancel their entire family if they were Croatian.

have the code they've written successfully aided them in doing that?