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[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Unless you’re indigenous. Then you’ll get thrown into a mass grave, and the authorities won’t do a thing about it when you’re discovered.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

Well... There was that time the RCMP provided bogus, seemingly fabricated information to the CIA resulting in Meher Arar's extraordinary rendition and ten months of torture. For no obvious reason.

https://bulletin-archives.caut.ca/bulletin/articles/2006/12/arar-case-has-implications-for-us-all-panel-says

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

No, you'll do something worse. You'll send me back to America. :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Hey, I would love to move to Canada as I unfortunately live in a shitty place but I cannot do that unless I can get a work visa and it's hard to get that. If anyone has a solution, I would love to hear it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Native Americans in Canada have entered the chat. 😒

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They don't like to be called that just fyi

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I am aware that, in the United States at least, they care to be called American Indians. But in the interest of accuracy I made a choice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Sorry to be a pedant, but it's Salvadoran, not "El Salvadorian".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Does this imply there is a Canadian process to throw people into an El Salvadorian Gulag?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They’re called “residential schools” in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The last residential school closed in 1997 and the government has since profusely apologized for their part in this disgusting history. Where is evidence this is still carrying on in the 21st century?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Nothing in there is stating the government is murdering indigenous people and burying them in mass graves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Only during war time when they get feeling like Geneva checklist.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

But we will sterilize you without your permission if you are a native!

[–] Cheradenine 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Will you do that for non natives too? Asking for me

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Get a good tan and I'm sure they will find time for you.

[–] Cheradenine 3 points 15 hours ago

I am tan, and a free Song and dance is appealing. Tell me more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Proof we still do this to any indigenous people at any time in the 21st century?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

https://nwac.ca/policy/forced-sterilization

https://apnews.com/article/canada-indigenous-women-sterilization-apology-reparations-ebcacc0f27b8d4c12d8690718202531d

Despite legislation Indigenous women allege they were coerced into consenting to sterilization, often during vulnerable moments such as childbirth, from the mid 1970s onwards.[64] In June 2021, the Standing Committee on Human Rights in Canada found that compulsory sterilization is ongoing in Canada and its extent has been underestimated.[65] A bill was introduced to Parliament in 2024 to end the practice.[66]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Canada

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, but foreign visitors wouldn't have to worry about that.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, but if the US decides to label you a felon for any reason, or no reason at all you can't go to Canada.

Notice how the US Government is declaring the anti-elon stuff to be terrorism? Do you remember what Edward Snowden showed us about the type of spying that the US is capable of, and authorized to do in the name of 'counter-terrorism'?

The US is about to invent a lot of new 'felons' and 'terrorists' and other countries, including Canada, will deny them entry and asylum.

[–] fibojoly 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

France doesn't extradite if death penalty or bad shit like this is on the table. So there is a strong chance you wouldn't get deported these days even as a "sans papier" (illégal alien). Is Canada not similar?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Canada has the same policy. It was challenged and allowed to lapse by Harper, though, IIRC. I wouldn't bet my life on it today.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No. When there were large bunches of refuges trying to escape from camps from the middle east, Canada refused entry to any any male 16 years or older for asylum. Women and small children were okish, but males were right fucked and flat refused. And I think that's still on the books yet today.

Canada, for all the "feel good" they have from others in the world, has as much history of cruelty to outsiders as any other western nation. And don't look to closely into why the Geneva Convention exists today either. They just hide it better.

[–] fibojoly 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Well, young guys that are not immediately employable are gonna be super difficult to integrate, to be fair. It sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you have a solid way to help them and what country actually has that, really?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

France refused asylum to Snowden when the US thew their weight around

[–] fibojoly 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

He wasn't in France at the time, though. Once you're in, though, we're not supposed to kick you out if we know you might get killed. This may actually have evolved in recent years, sadly.

But diplomacy is a bitch yeah.
I reckon it would be a very different answer if he made his request right now, though!

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I really wish this were an exaggeration.

[–] Typotyper -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s not. We have a catch and release police for most offences.

Like finishing we only keep you if it’s a big one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

I want you to read the post and then the original comment again

Slowly

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

As someone in the US, believe me, I do too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You guys taking electricians? I'm pretty sure I can chug syrup, and I can start using "eh" more, eh?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most trades are provincial jurisdiction (including electricians), so pick a province and look at their requirements for foreign trained electricians.

For example, to get your ticket in Ontario you'll need to look into the trade 309A (Construction and Maintenance Electrician) or 442A (Industrial Electrician), verify your work experience, and take an equivalency exam to test your knowledge. I'd recommend reading up on CEC requirements (very similar to NEC but there are differences).

https://www.skilledtradesontario.ca/experienced-workers/trade-equivalency-assessment/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Excellent. This is exactly the kind of advice I've been looking for. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

No problem!

I should also mention that electricians are part of the federal Red Seal program, so once you're licensed you can pretty easily move provinces without needing to recertify (though you still have to register with that province's trades regulator and follow their regulations instead).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

so many people in my life are talking about leaving to come to BC. are trump refugees something you guys would actually be cool with? I know some people in the world would resent us for not staying and doing what we can to clean his shit show up

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm not gonna blame anyone for fleeing fascism. At least if you leave, they're not getting your tax dollars* or labour.

That said, be aware that there is a housing crisis in Canada, and it's most severe in the metro Vancouver area.

*I think you would actually have to renounce US citizenship for this to be true, but I'm also unsure how aggressively the IRS would pursue tax collection from emigrants.

[–] merc 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As a general rule, people with US citizenship working in most other countries still have to file US taxes, but they end up owing nothing. There's a big exemption for wages earned in other countries, so unless you're making a lot of money and simultaneously living in a place with very low taxes, your payment will be $0. This sometimes affects say bankers who move to Switzerland where they make a lot of money and don't pay much in taxes. But, for most jurisdictions (including Canada) the taxes are more-or-less on par with the US or higher so you don't end up owing anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Thanks, yes! That sounds much more correct.

All I could remember is that my partner's US-born family members have periodically been paranoid about filing US taxes due to changes over the years, but not the specifics.

Most of them have renounced, but apparently that started costing thousands of dollars some years ago, so some remain dual citizens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

that's fair we have a house shortage too but not because of a shortage of houses. I came from an area were people were fighting eachother for places to live so I don't personally want to exacerbate your guys' situation. I'll keep studying languages, thank you for your answer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

To be clear, that wasn't meant as a discouragement, more just as a heads-up on what to expect.

It's "better" in smaller towns, but that comes at the cost of less infrastructure and services.

Imo it's been pretty predictable for years that we might need to absorb a lot of US emigrants, and while it's very popular to blame the housing crisis on new arrivals, it's fundamentally the result of decades of policy failures by successive governments of a country that relies heavily on immigration.

That said, there are probably better options for those who can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to come to BC, prepare to make less money and pay more for housing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

As so.eone whose rent has doubled in 4 years without moving, I've been prepping for that for years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

I wouldn't risk it Canada. The US is diseased and the illness needs to run its course.

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