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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

Last time we will hear about this pill. Like the last 5 times

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No side effects from the drug were detected in either group.

Wow, that's great.

I wonder what happened to vasalgel. They were supposed to have trials long ago, but for some reason never got there. The webpage says

NEXT Life Sciences announced its launch of the product called Plan A, using the Vasalgel technology for male contraception. The NEXT team expects Plan A to be available to the public in 2026.

But they've been saying that for a decade or so now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An alternative to Vasalgel did a couple of trials in January 2024 and they said the trail would be 2 years long to cover the entire lifespan of the drug.

I was trying to figure out why Vasalgel hasn't started human trials but I can't seem to find any actual reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a great time to be alive. Well except for the not having a partner. And being too timid to meet someone. And the whole rise of Nazis.

Ok so maybe not that great, but it's a thing that's cool.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah this could have helped save my relationship… ten years ago.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Can't wait for the flood of people telling us why this isn't feasible for men to take and insisting that when a SAFE and 100% EFFECTIVE form is ready they'll surely take it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

As a man I can assure you that this pill wouldn't be feasable for me to take and I'm better off without it.

~Because I'm snipped~

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It's feasible for men to take.
But it's absolutely not feasible for women to trust a men who says he's taking it.

So it is a good option for family planning of married couples (where the man is legally responsible for any children he might conceive).
But not for casual sex.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m sure you’re taking the necessary precautions; but in case anybody reading this gets mixed ideas. Using the contraceptive pill will ONLY help prevent pregnancy. There are hundreds reasons why you should still wear a condom for sex with a new partner with unknown history. That goes for both parties!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hundreds? No. Maybe a dozen reasons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Every individual syphalitic rambling counts as its own reason.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not sure how it's done where you live, but if you have a one night stand, the condom breaks, and she gets pregnant, you're still legally on the hook for child support. This sounds like a great idea for any man who wants their own insurance again any accidental pregnancy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, it is a great idea for men to take it.
It is not a great idea for women to have unprotected sex just because the man says he takes it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yes, completely agree with that.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I'd take it so my gf can get off her hormone implant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On another platform, yep.

It’s good to see an alternative, even though it’s going to be caught up in the precious fragile masculinity discussion.

You know what’s insane? Handing out hormonal birth control to 14 year old girls. Also, having women take hormones for decades on end.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Our first was a girl. Second was a boy. Third will be a vasectomy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Where do I apply as test subject?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mark my words: if this becomes available in the mainstream, one initial effect will be a rise in unplanned pregnancy.

The number of men who will actually take this is less than the number of men who will claim they take this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

"Birth control is for bitches" I can already hear Tate worshippers justifying rape.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

99% effective is nowhere near 100%, perhaps counterintuitively. Sex twice a week for a year and you're probably in deep shit.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure but its about the same rate as female birth control. also fertilization cant happen every single day of the month, so in your scenario you only gotta worry about 2 to 3 days a month, when you could use condoms if you were really worried about it.

This is a fantastic alternative to the hell hormonal birth control can be for women.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Am a dude on thyroid medications - hormonal impacting drugs and hormone variations are fucking brutal.

I talked with my wife to get off BC and we started using condoms again after my ordeal of getting stable with thyroid meds. I was like why would you take that shit when condoms exist.

For folks saying 99% whatever - like my condom busts up 1 in 50 or so. So might be better odds on a med.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I used to have the same issue with condoms, but closer to 1 in 3. It might be worth shopping around for condoms with a better fit

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Contraceptive effectiveness is usually not measured by number of times sex happened, it's measured by comparing how many pregnancies happen in comparison with the normally expected in a given time period.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The only birth control that is 100% effective is not having sex.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Abstinence is not birth control.

That’s like saying the only way to build a house that doesn’t fall down is to not build the house.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Abstinence is extremely effective. However, it’s impractical and associated with moralists and the piss-poor “sex education” that Americans get.

But it is 100% effective.

And yes, the best way to build a house that will never, ever fall down is to not build one. It is impractical, and beside the point, but it is true!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The abject lack of sex isn't a way to make sex safer. It's dodging the danger of sex, not addressing it. Abstinence has 0% effectiveness as safe sex, as the lack of sex is not at all related to safe sex.

Playing linguistics games is exactly how abstinence gets pushed in the first place. Agreeing that these games are accurate, when they are wholley not, just reinforces those regressive polices.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It really is, avoiding risk vs mitigating risk. Birth control is summarized as avoiding unwanted pregnancies, not about baby safe sex.

And I'm not saying "don't have sex if you don't want babies" because that's stupid ass argument considering we have so many other options for birth control for you to choose from

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The only safe way to fly is to not fly.

It’s not birth control.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Vasectomies Vasectomies are close enough

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Vasectomies aren't 100% foolproof.

Failure rates (first year) Perfect use 0.10%
Typical use 0.15%
"Vas-Clip" nearly 1%

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Now how in the hell is female sterilization not 100%?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Even after tubal litigation it's possible to still get pregnant if the fallopian tubes grow back together or if another tube/path forms. It's somewhat rare (0.5% of women who have had the procedure could get pregnant again)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Isn't there a chance vasectomies don't take either?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It's a lot easier to double check in men.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the same thing can happen with vasectomies so why isn't it showing anything there?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Vasectomies are a lot easier to double check. A woman released 1 egg a month. A man released a LOT of swimmers every shot. Go in a cup and check for swimmers.

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[–] SreudianFlip 3 points 1 month ago

OK that’s great and everything and hurrah for the snipped, V for Victory yadda yadda…

But really, a chart on contraception made by Dr. Dick Beatty?!

I’m crying over here

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only birth control that is 100% effective is having HOT GAY SEX™

Alternatively become a Buddhist monk and hit yourself in the balls until you're infertile, I guess

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Condoms are only 97% effective.

The 99% effectiveness is measured in the aggregate, not "have sex 100 times and you have a baby."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

That's not how those percentages are calculated. It's not per instance of intercourse, it's how many couples end up pregnant after being sexually active for a year. 99% means you have a 1% chance of getting a woman pregnant if you're sexually active throughout a year.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Is that any different than the pill or other contraception methods?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Bro, are you seriously against male contraception? The pill has failure rates of 9 friggin' percent of typical use. 99% for typical use would be amazing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Cool! Hopefully it'll actually reach the public before I have kids so they won't have to get a vasectomy like I did. Wait...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The core issue that nobody is mentioning is that (cis) men are ultimately not the people who suffer the consequences for not taking it so they are more likely to just lie. Stealthing is already common enough because men insist it feels better.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Stealthing?

Is that where they don't put it on or pretend it comes off or some stupid shit?

I'm... Yeah. Im Not ok now. My ex gave me way too many details about when she cheated on me and now I realize just how stupid I was staying with her as long as I did.

God fucking damnit. I mean I get it. Yeah, there's a noticable difference. But Jesus fucking Christ its rape at that point. I just

Goddamnit fuck men. Fuck all' the bastards that think they can do whatever they want with women. It's not right, I don't care how much hate I get for it. I might be a man, I might be straight as anyone can be. But no one deserves the shit that the patriarchy has created, and every day I seem to learn something new. It's bad enough that I don't conform to the "manly" image of being handy, strong, or arrogant, or sporty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

stealthing is and has always been considered rape

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