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In the piece — titled "Can You Fool a Self Driving Car?" — Rober found that a Tesla car on Autopilot was fooled by a Wile E. Coyote-style wall painted to look like the road ahead of it, with the electric vehicle plowing right through it instead of stopping.

The footage was damning enough, with slow-motion clips showing the car not only crashing through the styrofoam wall but also a mannequin of a child. The Tesla was also fooled by simulated rain and fog.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I can’t wait for all this brand loyalty and fan people culture to end. Why is this even a thing? Like talking about box office results, companies financials and stocks…. If you’re not an investor of theirs, just stop. It sounds like you’re working for free for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Brand loyalty is for suckers. But it's what brands prey on. They foster brand loyalty. And unfortunately there are a lot of suckers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I think it comes from Depression era kids who found a brand that didn’t create cheap junk and so they spread the word. But of course, that has been co-opted by capitalist pirates who buy a brand famous for quality, gut expensive manufacturing with the cheap alternatives and then count on making a profit before word-of-mouth catches up to them.

Sears retailer. Gibson guitars. Off the top of my head. Thousands more examples over the years.

My guess as for why people do it today was because their grandparents or previous generations did that as a survival necessity but now we are seeing the behavior warped from its original purpose. Like opening and raising your right hand to show you had no weapon became a friendly wave hello nowadays. Maybe that’s not an analogous example but you should get the idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 56 minutes ago

Of course it disengages self driving modes before an impact. Why would they want to be liable for absolutely anything?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago

How are there still tesla fans?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Mark Rober did a follow up interview here: https://youtu.be/W1htfqXyX6M

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Man these cars don`t have a Radar ? Only eyes like most of the animals? Not even as a backup ? Not talking about Lasers, but Radar? Truck drivers, better not paint a scenery on the back of your truck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Allegedly they used to, but Musk felt that vision should be enough because humans don't have radar either and they're just fine.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/elon-musk-overruled-tesla-engineers-radars-cameras/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

A genius! For decades, all carmakers have tried to fix human errors and compensate for our lack of abilities. Then there’s Elon, cutting out technologies because "humans don’t have them."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

LIDAR generally works better at relatively short distances (like less than a km). Several other car companies are going with LIDAR and do alright. Musk thinks cameras with image recognition would be sufficient without anything else. It goes without saying that Musk is very wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 53 minutes ago

Yeah, he’s a total idiot. That decision has held them back from so much progress… and for what? Saving a negligible amount of money on a very expensive car. Nice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes but i am not talking over a running system through AI, i only say as a backup for redundancy only, which takes control to save you and tells AI to shut the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago
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