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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

What was wrong with libre?

[–] turnip 2 points 11 minutes ago

The web browser is the future, especially for a crappy document editor and spread sheet.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Libre only does local document collaboration, having it online is helpful for teams far from each other or who simply don't have the infrastructure for their own central server of this kind.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well this has been running in our Nextcloud and works pretty well collaboratively :) https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online not sure how it scales, but definitely an alternative that can be built on

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Thanks for this; I may use it to build out my NextCloud server. I’ve already used it to replace shared calendars and contacts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago

If you're using Nextcloud All In One then it's easy to enable it in the AIO settings.

If you're not, I suggest looking into it. It's the new officially recommended way of installing and it's been great.

Nextcloud has an export/import data function but at the time I did it I only had a few GB of data so not sure how well it scales.

[–] kambusha 29 points 4 hours ago

Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I got a kick out of Google Docs alternative since it is trying to be AnyType, AFFiNE, AppFlowy, etc and none of those editors are stupid enough to claim to be Google Docs alternatives nor are they a bloated mess. Proof is in the pudding though... Try putting 1 inch margins on a page & add tab stops with this & printing it out where you get the same results.. oh wait, you can't... Cause it isn't a Google Docs alternative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I disagree. There's Microsoft Office, and there's everything else. Google is in that second bucket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Depends on who you hang with. Pretty much all businesses at this point do collaboration either with Office 365 or with Google Docs, and the same in Academia. Usually it’s a mix of both.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

There's Libre office for those who like freedom and open source tech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That is fine to have that opinion but it is irrelevant to the discussion since no where did I praise Google Docs. I'm just explaining the difference between this & and editor that does descent typesetting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And an editor that does a decent job is not google docs.

It is embarassing that MS has dominated this for more than 30 years and Google, despite its infinite wealth, hasn't made a decent office app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I wholeheartedly agree with this opinion. Google Docs has done very little to innovate. The fact that you're still limited to like 6 built-in styles & lack of integrated syntax highlighting is ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Yes, that's excellent.. We need our own Google suite. Fingers crossed so that it may come eventually.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

Great news!

This is probably the last hump for me before I can completely degoogle.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Nice. Where is the source, on github (I didn't see it but I only skimmed)? Federated? Self-hostable?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

From briefly looking over the toot, I think the German version is called openDesk (bad choice as there seems to be some interior design software with the same name) there is a community version you can self host in a docker container. They apparently also have distro packages for Debian and Ubuntu but they seem to have stopped development on those.

Here's a link: https://opendesk.eu/en/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

openDesk is a complete suite of open source software. I guess Docs could at some point become a part of it. But it‘s not the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Github: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

Self-hostable, but it seems like an absolute behemoth of an application if their "non-production-use-only" docker-compose file is to be believed, and I couldn't find any production-ready deployment instructions on a quick skim. No obvious signs of federation and I didn't see anything on their roadmap, not sure it would make a lot of sense for this though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Deployment instructions start with the prerequisite that you have a full kubernetes cluster with ingress laying around, so… yeah. It looks like it'll be on the heavy side.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

Self-hostable, needs Minio (or any S3 compatible system).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

ZenDiS is awesome by the way.