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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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"Rules for thee, not for me" - An ML and I both accuse each other of not being leftists on lemmy.ml. As always, the ML gets away with it, and the anarchist gets (temp) banned (reddthat.com)

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What makes this worse is the obvious disrespect from Cowbee of my request to disengage. I made it very clear I didn't want to argue. These communities have absolutely no standards of behaviour for members of the in-group. Which is exactly why I don't engage with them in these communities.

Well, also the fact that I hate being constantly called a liberal for not repeating Capitalist Putin's latest botfarm talking point. Talking to these people is an exercise in keeping my calm while I am constantly insulted. No thank you.

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[–] Enkers 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe there's more context here that I'm missing, but from what I can see...

YDI/BPR

If you don't want to argue, stop typing or block them. Real childish pot stirring behaviour going on there. You can't try and get the last word in by saying "don't respond to my criticism."

[+] [email protected] -10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I don't want to argue, but I do want to get the last word in, and I also want to explain that my reason for not arguing is that I know Cowbee by reputation and I refuse to be sealioned and trolled by him. I'd be very happy to say my piece without any sealioning and trolling, which is what I tried to make happen, but alas, once again he used the old "Why won't you talk to me :(", just like my ex does when she's been drinking.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Those are essentially mutually exclusive...

If someone wants to argue with you, and you want to disengage, you have to accept that you're not going to get the last word in no matter how many times you say "don't argue with me" - cause you can't control what they can say afterwards.

This is especially true, and comes off as childish, when you're the one that baited that argument in the first place with "your piece".

[–] Enkers 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This reminds me of the behaviour in young siblings where one will initiate, and when the anticipated response comes, they launch in to "Mom, they're touching me!"

You clearly do want to argue, you just don't want to be argued back with. Either that, or you're just trying to provoke a response.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago

I'd be happy to have an argument without trolling, sealioning, and calling people liberals

[–] freeman 17 points 3 days ago

He didn't accuse you of not being a leftist, he accused the Democrats™ of that.

Your comment there as well as your description as an anarchist seem to imply that your are not a Democrat yourself but you merely want them to win instead of Trump (lesser evil and all that).

You apparently called them a Trump supporter (which is calling someone not a leftist as you admit you did).

You feel disrespected by people arguing with you after you argued against the original post. Then you come here and say the quiet part loud.

I don’t want to argue, but I do want to get the last word in

... YDI

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Honestly you probably deserved that one. I think a ban is a bit much but it is only 2 days and you were goading

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ignoring the points of the argument, you have to tell them to "disengage" with nothing else posted in your comment to them. I have a troll following me around every time I talk about a certain topic and the only way to get them to stop (for a brief moment) is to say "disengage." I've made it clear I don't want to talk to them anymore, multiple times, but still I have to type "disengage" every time they reply to me the same exact bad faith shit they always say.

If you don't want to deal with them altogether, you have to consider blocking them. The troll I've been dealing with has tried to egg me and others into blocking them, they celebrate each time they get blocked. So I also understand if you don't want to block them, they are miserable people who enjoy feeding on negativity. The fact trolls roam lemmy can dampen your enjoyment, it really does suck.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To elaborate: https://wiki.dbzer0.com/divisions-by-zero/the-disengage-rule

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Interesting. What's the value of an explicit "disengage" compared to just not replying?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Well for one: silence isn't disengaging sometimes, so they may keep replying.

Sometimes you'd want to add extra context before you disengage too; for this we will take action against people who break the rule (on our instance)

You can't say "Disengage! Also you're stupid." as some "last word own". If that is said then they'll have to deal the consequences; we won't do anything abt it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It's a courtesy to tell the other user that they shouldn't expect a response, and an extension of good-faith.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yep, this is correct. I couldn't just leave the implication that I'm a Trump supporter uncontested, that was slander, they nullified the disengage rule by doing so. I'm fine with not continuing a conversation people don't wish to continue, but not with people trying to use the disengage rule to hide behind personal insults towards me.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you don't want people to call you a Trump supporter, you should try not calling people liberals when they argue we should vote against Trump. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I didn't call you a liberal here, and moreover I only implied your hostility to Leftists critical of the DNC after you called me a Trump supporter. My initial comment just asked why you think the Dems would start meaningfully opposing Trump after the midterms when they aren't already, which is a reasonable and non-inflammatory question.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know you by reputation. You act like this all the time. It doesn't matter if you're provoked. You do it because you know the mods won't punish you for it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I don't know who you are, moreover this now seems like a personal vendetta with me you want to air out. If you want to have an actual discussion with me and see if we can find common ground as fellow leftists I am more than willing to, but that's hard to do if you call me a troll, Trump supporter, sealion, etc just for trying to engage in a conversation in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh hey, it's me. In my opinion, if you want to disengage, you shouldn't also lash out and expect to not get called out for that final lash. If I just left the accusation of me being a Trump supporter open just because you said you didn't want to argue, then that can be seen as admission of being as accused, ergo I responded to that specifically rather than continue the conversation you disengaged from.

In the future, if you want to disengage, then either just say something like "disengage" or don't respond. If you insult, you aren't disengaging, but inviting further engagement despite your stated wishes to not engage. It's like throwing a sucker punch then saying "no punchbacks."

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay, fair. I'm fine with having been banned. You should have been banned too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For what?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Jumping to the conclusion that if I don't like you personally, I must hate all leftists. It was mean.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I never said you hate leftists, though. After you called me a Trump supporter unprovoked, I asked if you think all Leftists critical of the DNC and GOP count as Trump supporters in your eyes, as there's no other conclusion I could have gathered from your unprovoked claim.

[–] Skiluros 15 points 3 days ago

Why even waste time on lemmy.ml?

[–] AwesomeLowlander 13 points 3 days ago

If you haven't blocked .ml yet at this point, that's probably on you

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There sure is a lot of arguing in these comments from someone who said they didn't want to argue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

They don't want to argue but want to always get the last word in 🙃

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago

Well we're not on .ml right now, so I'm fine with arguing

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Similar to @[email protected], I suspect I'm lacking some context here, but based purely on what I can see in this post, you came across as rather childish. I'm inclined to say YDI/BPR.

While I do agree that rule should have applied to Cowbee too, that doesn't give you carte-blanche to do the same.

Also, confronting someone you know to be a troll in an intentionally inflammatory manner, then getting annoyed that they chose to argue with you is like waving a red flag in front of a bull and being surprised it charged at you...

You baited that argument, so I don't have much sympathy for you in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't follow, where is the implication that I'm a troll? OP's complaint was that me as an ML was left alone while they as an Anarchist were punished (though there was no indication that they were an Anarchist, just being pro-dem).

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wasn't being pro-dem, and you should give other people the benefit of the doubt. Someone having a problem with your ML talking points doesn't mean they aren't a leftist. You and the other .ml regulars pull this shit constantly. I've seen y'all do it a hundred times. You are mean and exclusionary to anyone who disagrees with you about the election, and then you cry foul when it's done back to you, so clearly you know it's not nice behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

First, if you don't want to continue arguing about the original point, it's not my intention to continue it, just explain myself. Your original comment was about being upset at the meme for potentially "discouraging people from voting Democrat." If you don't want to call that being pro-Dem, then that's fine, I'll adjust my phrasing, but my question in response to that (shown in the image above) is in no way trolling or sealioning.

I wasn't saying you weren't a Leftist, I asked if Leftists being critical of the DNC were all secretly republicans in your eyes, and I asked as such because you had just labeled me a Trump supporter unprovoked. Is that not a bit hypocritical, when you claim to be upset at me for implying you aren't a Leftist?

All in all my point is that my initial comment was not mean in any way, and you responded with meanness. The rest of the exchange was me clearing my name. If you wanted to disengage, you should have done as other users have suggested and just said "disengage" or not responded.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is that not a bit hypocritical, when you claim to be upset at me for implying you aren’t a Leftist?

Sure it is. We're both hypocrites. We both know it's wrong to accuse fellow leftists of not being leftists, and we both did it anyway.

If you don’t want to call that being pro-Dem

I sure don't. America uses First Past The Post. The mathematics of the FPTP system are better represented by the idea of voting against than voting for. Voting for democrats doesn't support them, but it opposes Trump. Abstaining is a refusal to oppose Trump. Telling other people not to oppose Trump is supporting Trump. Telling other people to oppose Trump isn't supporting Democrats.

You've had this argument a million times and you never learned anything. That's why I think you're a troll and a sealion. Your intention is to waste other people's time. You like to argue. You like the challenge, the conflict, the thrill. The process is more enjoyable and more important to you than the end result. Changing your mind would take away your ability to engage in the same process, because then you wouldn't have the advantage of everyone you argue with being banned from .ml communities, giving you a symbolic victory and letting you feel proud that you're a good debater. You want to dominate your opponent from within the rules of the game. It's not about the future, it's about the game. It's a sport to you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ignoring the attempt at psychoanalysis (which I disagree with your conclusions about me), I never claimed you weren't a Leftist. I asked if Leftists being critical of the DNC and GOP alike were all Trump supporters in your eyes, right after you called me a Trump supporter for asking why you think the Dems will suddenly become meaningful opposition come the midterms when they aren't already.

It really isn't my fault when people come onto Lemmy.ml and start slandering users as Trump supporters and trolls and get themselves banned. I never reported you for it either. I would much rather get some form of agreement with you and come to a consensus, because debate is largely stupid. My intention when talking with other users depends on the context, but generally focuses on trying to educate on Marxism and Marxism-Leninism, or on discussing contemporary political issues (like the Dems being, in my opinion, woefully insufficient to oppose Trump, revolution is necessary).

I don't get a dopamine hit when I "win" an argument, but instead do when people genuinely change their mind or thank me for helping with their understanding of Marxist or Marxist-Leninist theory, and for what it's worth that's more frequent than users getting upset at me for engaging with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

YDI.

If you post a claim or an accusation on the Internet, you're expected to back it up. If you don't want to back it up, then don't make any accusations in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lay with the tankies, get the tracks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Fight pigs, get dirty.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Forget it, Jake. It's .ml.

If you legit don't want to argue, just disengage. No one owes you silence.

I think this one might legit be a YDI, or close to it.

[–] southsamurai 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Ahhhh, if they'd picked a different rule to cite, it would be a YDI because the comment was borderline against rule 1. But if the mod can't be bothered to cite the right rule out of two rules total, then they're half-assing the job.

I dunno if it's a power tripping bastard. Maybe a LFB? Lazy fucking bastard? Definitely bad moderation though.

Edit: also, you double posted by accident

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Link to thread?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

https://reddthat.com/post/36238758/16989551

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

PTB, not applied consistently. But I also don't see this happening here in this case, so a dash of YDI.

All I can suggest is judicious use of the block user option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah they really do not like it when you call out their game. It's because they actually think they are being clever and that everyone can't already see they are just Trump trolls.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago

PTB

.ML is cancer on a good day, literal chinese propaganda on an avg day.

Block the whole instance, nothing good comes from it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago

That’s pretty much what you can expect from .ml. Check the modlogs. SO many comments are removed that don’t even violate the rules.

Additionally, I’ll bet that it was the Jack-booted authoritarian admins that removed you and not even a mod. The mods there are powerless. Admins overrule them all the time.

You’re better off blocking that shithole.

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