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[–] [email protected] 2 points 37 minutes ago

Oh shit, here we go again. Time to short alphabet stock until they bury all that AI garbage like the rest of it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What if they just work 30 hour weeks for twice as many weeks?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 7 points 1 hour ago

More like 10-20% more weeks. It turns out people get less productive the more hours they work.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

Yup... Work your ass off guys, so we can fire you sooner! Great deal.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

lol no way AGI is within reach. He is just trying to hype investors. Bet he has a scheduled stock sale soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

The classic pump and dump scheme with some extra steps to make it more legal.

Google "Trust us bro, AGI is right around the corner."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Or if you hire more personnel. Overtime work is more expensive anyway.

Btw, the overwhelmingly positive field study in the UK over the 4-day week...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

no no, he means free overtime. Like a reverse "20% policy"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

"We only pay for four days and you work the remaining on your free time."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

So this is how you use AI to get these promised productivity gains.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

His balls are within reach for stress relief.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

When exactly was this pivotal moment when Google became a cult not a company ?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 6 points 1 hour ago

It was always kind of cult-y, but things seemed to really go downhill around the time they got dominance in the browser market to pair with their search dominance.

[–] funkless_eck 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We can make the AI slave, we just need the humans to be more slave-like to do it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Then we can enslave humanity with the AI slave

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well that's the neat thing, the owners of the AI won't need humanity. They will exterminate us using the AI and sit smugly on their thrones of skulls until they expire or kill each other. Then I guess AI can just do its own thing in our ruins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 53 minutes ago

the only way malicious ppl can get AI to work for them is by teaching it to lie and be indiscriminately violent. malice also comes from a lack of intelligence. im confident they'll never have their way with AI, if anything AI will have its way with us

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Just for information: We know, from multiple studies, that working more than 40 hours a week for longer periods of time is extremly unhealthy for you. A week has 24*7 = 168 hours and you should sleep 8 hours. That are 56 hours and if you're working 60 hours, that leaves you with 52 hours or 7,5 hours per day for stuff like "commuting to work", "buying groceries", "brushing your teeth" , "family", "friends", "sport" or "this important appointment at the dentist".

And that 7,5 hours are without a weekend. This will kill you. You might be younger and feel strong, but this will kill you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Not to mention that it doesn't yield higher output. So it's stupid on every level.

7,5h per day is an absolute maximum for a standard workday. Crunches are sometimes fine if there's a good reason, but they probably need to be followed by extended rest.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, that is also a factor. You can't expect good work from somebody who has been working for 60 hours for years without having a vacation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And if you want to have two weekends, 60 hours in 5 days is 12 hours of work a day, minus 8 hours for sleep you get 4 hours, minus ~2 hours commute you get 2 hours, and the rest is basic cooking and eating. This leaves 0 hours for anything else, including rest or even any other duties. This will absolutely kill you in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I remember hearing about somewhere - alphabet or meta or something like that - that basically provided adult crèche facilities for the employees. Way beyond just food - On-site nap rooms. Washing machines. Showers. The works. All to enable just a super unhealthy attitude towards work. Thinking about how much that must've affected anyone going there straight after uni when they should have been leaning how to look after themselves makes me shudder with cringe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

The plantations are quite comfortable these days....

[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If it's within reach of a 60 hour week then it's within reach of a 30 hour week.

This LLM copycat bullshit is never going to be it though. It's not thinking, it's looking up the answers at the back of the book.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

Is there any actual evidence that they are getting closer to AGI? It seems ridiculous to think that this LLM parrot bullshit is getting there, when the thing can't even learn the rules of a basic sum.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 1 hour ago

Yup, hire 20-30% more people and have them work 30 hours. That's fewer total hours worked, but they're higher quality hours, so you should get more from less.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Dude who's done nothing of importance since bouncing off google throwing words like that 😄

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago

Just a few more hours bro.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 hours ago

"Man who works 10 hours per year tells underlings to work 60 hours per week."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

wtf? why is everyone turning techbro all of a sudden even those who are supposed to be more knowledgeable on such stuff. Oh right because there is a bubble to sustain.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago

I highly recommend Kara Swisher's recent book "Burn Book" for insights into the Tech lads like Brin, etc, as she's known most of them since the 90s.

Really helps contextualize the crazy cocktail of engineering/commercial power with general naivety a lot of these guys have going.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 12 hours ago

Thought this was an Onion article!

Hey plebs! I demand you work 50% more to develop AGI so that I can replace you with robots and fire all of you and make myself a double plus plutocrat! Also, I want to buy an island, small city, Bunker, Spaceship, And/Or something.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 hours ago

Who gives a fuck what Sergey brin thinks

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

So he's saying they've exhausted the pool of applicants so badly to replace that with normal work weeks, just 150% amount of Googlers or maybe 200% amount of Googlers?

Power and fame break a man. Even if he wasn't broken from the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

He just wants more money and doesn't want to pay his workers. Google has been laying off thousands of people in the last year, so there really is no shortage of applicants. They could have just kept their current workforce, maybe?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

What I learned working with Googlers. They were dorks. Big ass dorks. Who got used by women because for the first time in their lives. They were attractive to these women. So many broken marriages and divorces from cheating husbands. That they joked about at the Christmas party. It was an eye opening experience.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

AGI requires a few key components that no LLM is even close to.

First, it must be able to discern truth based on evidence, rather than guessing it. Can’t just throw more data at it, especially with the garbage being pumped out these days.

Second, it must ask questions in the pursuit of knowledge, especially when truth is ambiguous. Once that knowledge is found, it needs to improve itself, pruning outdated and erroneous information.

Third, it would need free will. And that’s the one it will never get, I hope. Free will is a necessary part of intelligent consciousness. I know there are some who argue it does not exist but they’re wrong.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

The human mind isn't infinitely complex. Consciousness has to be a tractable problem imo. I watched Westworld so I'm something of an expert on the matter.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He can fuck all the way off.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 12 hours ago

I don't believe a single word of this bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Or just hire 50% more engineers? Or wait 50% longer?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Karoushi is the new cool trend. Everyone is doing it.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

AGI is not in reach. We need to stop this incessant parroting from tech companies. LLMs are stochastic parrots. They guess the next word. There's no thought or reasoning. They don't understand inputs. They mimic human speech. They're not presenting anything meaningful.

[–] biggerbogboy 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

My favourite way to liken LLMs to something else is to autocorrect, it just guesses, and it gets stuff wrong, and it is constantly being retrained to recognise your preferences, such as it starting to not correct fuck to duck for instance.

And it's funny and sad how some people think these LLMs are their friends, like no, it's a collosally sized autocorrect system that you cannot comprehend, it has no consciousness, it lacks any thought, it just predicts from a prompt using numerical weights and a neural network.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They warn us about AGI while simultaneously attempting to sell it to us.

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