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How do MAGA folks ignore Trump's DEEEEEEEP ties to Epstein so completely???
They don't ignore it, they don't care.
They think elites should be able to do what they want— reactionary ideology was founded as a monarchical counterrevolutionary movement, and that's the ideal they're working backwards to achieve.
Note that this obviously doesn't apply to elites who aren't aligned with their movement.
They use rhetoric to divide the opposition and to rally their base; they don't actually care about coherence.
They think elites should be able to do what they want
Recently, one of my moms was ranting about how corrupt Biden was for pardoning his son (she didn't even know what he was charged for - I got her to look it up and then her response was basically "well, he deserved it anyways because of corruption). Later the same day, we were talking about how Musk was abusing his position to fire people investigating his companies and my moms responses were "that's smart".
There's so much "as long as my team does it, it's good and no matter what the other team does, it's bad"
The cruelty is the point.
In this case, I kind suspect its an issue of saving face. They don't want to admit that the team they supported are doing bad things, because it would admit being wrong. But until it starts to serious hurt them directly, they won't care. Of course the current administration is actively trying to harm them, but I can't imagine them admitting it until well after it happens...
For conservatives, their team is morally good so can do no bad. The other team is morally bad so can do no good. And the law is there to punish the bad people. The end result is selective enforcement of rules and laws against certain minorities.
Yep. It works exactly like cheating in sport. I know football fans who will want the harshest penalties for cheating in the opposite team, while just laughing and shrugging if someone in their team does the same thing or even worse. .
Reality itself is a team sport for conservatives.
Their stated ideals are ad-hoc justifications. All that has ever mattered is ingroup loyalty. There is no other force in their moral universe.
And they think it's all you're doing, because they think that's all there is.
And they think it’s all you’re doing, because they think that’s all there is.
Yep. They keep claiming that Biden is "your guy" or something like that. I never voted or supported Biden. Doesn't matter how many times I point out I don't support him or call out BS from the dems. Somehow because I think Republicans and Trump are worse means I'm automatically supporting Dems/Biden/Kamala.
Sooooo... Your nonvote helped elect Trump and now you're unhappy about it? I'm so fucking sorry for you, dude.
How do you figure? I can't think of a single state where my one vote would have swung the election. Even if I could have voted 1 million times, it wouldn't have changed the outcome. I voted for the dem in the senate election, which was closer: if I had just voted 1 million times there, it would have barely swung it!
In the early days of the conservative or the Donald subreddit I glanced in there, and their reasoning is elites and corporations should have no taxes period, and believe jobs will trickle down to people, I chuckled and closed the sub.
It's called trickle-down pedophilia
Conservatives are pretty perverted people, they think it's ok actually people are getting SA, and should be grateful someone powerful noticed the victims. I once followed some as tubers that turned right wingers over the pandemic, and guess what one of them did, bragged about knowing a vaguely pedophile in a school setting. First and foremost they love strongmen and will ignore any moral failings.
Man that's a wild claim to just throw o- hold up I think you're right
They literally don’t think too hard about it. Just feed them the next conspiracy line and they’ll latch on, no matter how hard it goes against the last one. “He was there because he was trying to stop it” was the approximate excuse I heard a few years ago.
Right wingers are experts at mental gymnastics . First they have to believe their own lies, and in order to be convinced that Republicans lied are believable
They just grab the nearest pussy, of-age or non, and don’t think about it.
That doesn't even have anything to do with government transparency. Those are just files the prosecutors gathered over the last few years.
The current activities of Musk and his lackeys are still shrouded in secrecy. We only hear the observable effects from the other workers who are being forced out or barely hanging on.
The suddend change of strategy of the United States Cyber Command and of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency to no longer regard Russia as a Cybersecurity threat, was also not transparently communicated, and instead only revealed by the press indirectly.
People will be going to jail…
Starting with trump, right? Right?
He has presidential immunity because raping those children 20 years ago was all part of a plan to build diplomatic relations with Putin.
He's always been playing 4d chess, that stable genius
Trump all over this. MAGA won't care
Yeah because that's how prosecutions start...by dumping troves of documents into the public domain so that we can do a citizen's arrest!
These breathing MAGA bots moonlight as fucking clowns.
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
Surely this is just the preparation for false allegations against their opponents? Why put your crony as the FBI director if you're not going to get him to lie and cheat for you. Part one, re-release what's already out there, to show you're exposing the "truth", this gives legitimacy to whatever shit you come out with next.
Yeah, funny how his last administration didn't release any docs when they could. Neing transparent and wll.
people will be going to jail for what they have done
Except Trump.
Except anyone rich
It would be less terrifying if that were true. Rich people being corrupt and getting away with crimes is nothing new in America.
The scary thing is that the ones that will get away with it are the ones who ally themselves with Trump. This is going to be used as another tool to attack our democracy.
The "DECLASSIFIED" watermark on the cover is just the cherry in top.
Real declassified documents will have a "secret" or "top secret" mark on the cover and on every page that is struck out, redacted, or otherwise obliterated.
it depends, recent documents will have a date of classification and expiration. it also depends on which agency did the classification because ODNI is toothless.
ive never seen a FOIA request answered with crossed out portion marks.
people are circlejerking over this "transparency"
open source the government or fuck off, i don't want to hear it.
Probably spoon-fed to them by the blyats.
And I'm sure they left all the connections with trump & friends
Seriously, if you're going to be that transparent about your own fraud and crimes then why even bother doing that?
Trump, just say you raped kids. Noone who can make a difference cares, you can still spin it that you blessed these children somehow with your holy seed or some shit like that, and your base will still gobble it up.
It will make your life so much easier as you will no longer have to lie, and at least people know that your honest. I know it's an extremely low low bar to set, but you'd at least be honest.
Unredacted flight logs or it isn't released.
Any other specific documents we need?
Epstein’s client list is what will legally incriminate his ‘customers.’ Flight logs are good evidence, but not enough for a case alone.
The client list is only a starting point for investigating.
It would take getting ahold of Epstein's blackmail on people to actually get convictions.
Even if someone was in his client list and had multiple trips to his island, that still isn't enough proof. You could easily assume the individual went to the island for illegal activity because illegal activity was known to go on there, but that does not mean that they did anything illegal.
Innocent until proven guilty, the blackmail is the evidence of guilt. It is likely that Maxwell has access to the blackmail, but that much dirt is very valuable as a leverage tool that nobody would want to give up. She probably won't give up the blackmail to avoid being Epstein'd.
We will never get the outcome we want because the blackmail is missing.
Is there anything new in this release that we didn't know years ago from the last one?
Mark my words, there will be absolutely nothing that implicates anyone in power. At least not for the next four years.
He's already said that he will not release this information. I'm not sure why this is surprising anyone. They're releasing stuff that was already out there. None of this is new and there won't be anything new at least until the next administration if ever.
Oh I'm not surprised at all, I just wanted to call it out.
So far, not a single thing.
Some people said they are releasing it now because they are being distracted by the zelenksy interview, like a typical Republican move so the voters will forget this in 4 years, and they can claim it is old news. Notice msm almost never talks about Epstein files at all? It's because it also exposes alot of potential abusers which are probably a lot ceos in msms and politcians
is that not the same person? i can hear the over exaggerated drawl from here.
I thought the same, but some googling seems to suggest not